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AMD announced its first Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000 series) desktop CPUs on October 8.
Compared to Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series) CPUs, the Zen 3 microarchitecture has higher boost clocks and around 19% higher instructions per clock. A unified core complex die (CCD) allows 8 cores to access up to 32 MB of L3 cache, instead of two groups of 4 cores accessing 16 MB each, leading to lower latency and more cache available for any particular core. TDPs are the same as the previous generation, leading to a 24% increase in performance per Watt.
AMD estimates a 26% average increase in gaming performance at 1080p resolution, with the Zen 3 CPUs beating or tying Intel's best CPUs in most games.
Ryzen 9 5950X, 16 cores, 32 threads, boosts up to 4.9 GHz, 105W TDP, $800.
Ryzen 9 5900X, 12 cores, 24 threads, boosts up to 4.8 GHz, 105W TDP, $550.
Ryzen 7 5800X, 8 cores, 16 threads, boosts up to 4.7 GHz, 105W TDP, $450.
Ryzen 5 5600X, 6 cores, 12 threads, boosts up to 4.6 GHz, 65W TDP, $300.
You may have noticed that these prices are exactly $50 more than the launch prices for the Ryzen 3000 equivalents released in 2019. The 5600X is the only model that will ship with a bundled cooler.
The CPUs will all be available starting on November 5. AMD will stream an announcement for its RX 6000 series of high-end GPUs on October 28.
See also: AMD Zen 3 Announcement by Lisa Su: A Live Blog at Noon ET (16:00 UTC)
AMD Teases Radeon RX 6000 Card Performance Numbers: Aiming For 3080?
Previously: AMD's Zen 3 CPUs Will Not be Compatible with X470, B450, and Older Motherboards
AMD Reverses BIOS Decision, Intends to Support Zen 3 on B450 and X470 Motherboards
AMD Launching 3900XT, 3800XT, and 3600XT Zen 2 Refresh CPUs: Milking Matisse
AMD Zen 3, Ryzen 4000 Release Date, Specifications, Performance, All We Know
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 10 2020, @12:26AM (8 children)
Umm, no. All the new "lean" players from Nasuni to Nutanix to Rubrik use Intel, and the new solutions are not "lean" by any means - they are more expensive than the old players. Stop looking at list prices - the old guys discount 60-80% off list, the new guys discount 50%.
There is literally almost no AMD. A specialized "supercomputer" running ARM says nothing about what CPUs people use. Just because someone built 200 nodes and called it a single computer doesn't mean anything. I literally sell this shit. The amound of AMD I've sold in the last decade can be counted on zero fingers.
AMD is not "lean" - they hit the same performance for less because they sell shit that's not as proven or tested. No one is going to risk production on that.
(Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday October 10 2020, @02:13AM (2 children)
You're talking about companies that raised investor cash ten or more years ago. In what world are those the "the new guys"? The actual new guys are the ones building out clusters from their own pockets, and who's idea of being conservative will be replicating their AMD-stocked cabinets once investor cash starts burning a hole in their pockets.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 10 2020, @08:15AM (1 child)
Rubrik is 6 years old, GA products 4 years ago.
Nutanix 11, GA products 7 years ago.
Nasuni 12, don't know when their shit became for sale.
Cohesity 7 years old, GA 3 years ago.
Qumulo 8, started releasing GA products last year
All use Xeon. Pure arrays use Xeon, also a new player. Literally every enterprise appliance available uses Xeon chips, especially the new ones. Because when you have a new product you're trying to work out your bugs and get it out the door, and you don't want to worry about a CPU causing potential problems.
If there are guys building clusters from their pockets, and they're trying to save $1k on a CPU for a product that costs 100k+, those guys don't succeed. AMD has been around since 1970. Whatever they were going to start in the datacenter would have started by now. No investor VC cash is going to stand behind a plan that takes unnecessary product failure risk, to save a penny here and there. It is funny how you can't actually name anything on the market. Something tells me the guy who literally designs and sells this shit (me) and the people who are successful at making this shit, know a lot more than you, with your basement gaming rig. Enjoy mario 4k, and stick to nintendo please, not the datacenter.
(Score: 2) by Pav on Tuesday October 20 2020, @11:22AM
I knew sales guys have to learn to like the smell of their own farts, but you're REALLY huffing. :)
I suppose new startups never leverage newer cheaper (sometimes even inferior in some ways) technology against The Way Things Are Done, and in the process roll the established order. In the next year or three you'll be pulling AMD products from your g-string and waving them around like it has forever been thus. ;)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 10 2020, @03:34AM (2 children)
Intel is more tested... that's why so many vulnerabilities have been found in it.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 10 2020, @08:06AM
The previous node process is more tested, because it ran longer. New node processes have issues all the time, both for Intel and AMD. So when something just came out, it is less tested and proven than something that has been running for 5 years. What is it you're not getting here Sherlock?
You're on an airplane with your family. Do you want that plane to use engines that have a million miles of proven flight time, or do you want to fly on ones that were released last week?
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 10 2020, @08:38AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 10 2020, @06:37AM (1 child)
The ARM supercomputer that is the fastest supercomputer in the world is by NEC. NEC was a sparc shop who made big iron while Sun supplied the smaller stuff, and purportedly these new NEC arm processors are based on their sparc processors just using the arm instruction set. The CPU's vector units which are what gives this machine its performance (it does not use accelerators like GPUs that you find in Intel HPC clusters), are of NECs own design. But, to GP's point, it ain't Intel.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 10 2020, @07:59AM
a supercomputer is not a computer. it's a supercomputer. it's a cluster of many computers. just because you put a bunch of computers on a network does not make each node more powerful - it just means you have more nodes. to make a node more powerful, or on the topic of this specific discussion - to make a CPU more powerful, ARM does not come even close to competing with other architectures such as Power or x86.
And by the way, Vector units, in addition to being things like SSE/MMX/etc, are what a GPU is made of.
So all you're saying here is a cluster of thousands of underpowered nodes, each running an OS, perform fast on a highly parallel workload. Which has zero to do with how fast a CPU is. A CPU, in case you didn't know, is a bunch of cores on a die. Not a cluster of networked computers.