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posted by Fnord666 on Friday October 09 2020, @10:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the everything-zen dept.

AMD announced its first Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000 series) desktop CPUs on October 8.

Compared to Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series) CPUs, the Zen 3 microarchitecture has higher boost clocks and around 19% higher instructions per clock. A unified core complex die (CCD) allows 8 cores to access up to 32 MB of L3 cache, instead of two groups of 4 cores accessing 16 MB each, leading to lower latency and more cache available for any particular core. TDPs are the same as the previous generation, leading to a 24% increase in performance per Watt.

AMD estimates a 26% average increase in gaming performance at 1080p resolution, with the Zen 3 CPUs beating or tying Intel's best CPUs in most games.

Ryzen 9 5950X, 16 cores, 32 threads, boosts up to 4.9 GHz, 105W TDP, $800.
Ryzen 9 5900X, 12 cores, 24 threads, boosts up to 4.8 GHz, 105W TDP, $550.
Ryzen 7 5800X, 8 cores, 16 threads, boosts up to 4.7 GHz, 105W TDP, $450.
Ryzen 5 5600X, 6 cores, 12 threads, boosts up to 4.6 GHz, 65W TDP, $300.

You may have noticed that these prices are exactly $50 more than the launch prices for the Ryzen 3000 equivalents released in 2019. The 5600X is the only model that will ship with a bundled cooler.

The CPUs will all be available starting on November 5. AMD will stream an announcement for its RX 6000 series of high-end GPUs on October 28.

See also: AMD Zen 3 Announcement by Lisa Su: A Live Blog at Noon ET (16:00 UTC)
AMD Teases Radeon RX 6000 Card Performance Numbers: Aiming For 3080?

Previously: AMD's Zen 3 CPUs Will Not be Compatible with X470, B450, and Older Motherboards
AMD Reverses BIOS Decision, Intends to Support Zen 3 on B450 and X470 Motherboards
AMD Launching 3900XT, 3800XT, and 3600XT Zen 2 Refresh CPUs: Milking Matisse
AMD Zen 3, Ryzen 4000 Release Date, Specifications, Performance, All We Know


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 10 2020, @06:29AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 10 2020, @06:29AM (#1062900)

    grep vendor_id /proc/cpuinfo
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD

    From a VM on a large cloud provider.

    if you google:
    amd aws
    amd azure
    amd gce
    amd oracle cloud
    amd ibm cloud

    *Every* one of the above searches returns a bunch of links announcing AMD Zen based VM instances.

    So, I call bullshit.

    If you said that Intel still outsells AMD by a substantial margin, that is easy to believe, change comes slowly, and hardware vendors have been slow to add AMD offerings. But, AMD has a much better offering. Not just performance/$. Their full memory encryption is almost there in the current gen, so expecting it will be good in the zen3 epycs. The memory encryption will make AMD very attractive to customers of shared computing resources. At my work, we were an AMD shop in the early Opteron days when AMD was on top, we moved to Intel Xeon when that was better, and we are waiting until next year to replace all our Intel servers and going all-in AMD again. The value proposition is a no-brainer. If Intel doesn't get its shit together, it is going continue losing customers.

    For smaller places that use VMWare, there were changes to their licensing that hurt AMD. VMware had been licensed per socket, but now they treat an AMD 64 core processor as two sockets for licensing. If more follow suit, that will help intel too, but AMD is still better perf and much better perf/$ even in the lower core counts, just less of a no-brainer since now cannot cut licensing costs in half by switching. Because of this licensing B.S., I predict AMD to have some higher clock 32 core chips in their next gen at less attractive pricing, but still better pricing than Intel.

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  • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 10 2020, @08:02AM

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday October 10 2020, @08:02AM (#1062909)

    yes, every cloud provider, and even every VAR I've worked for gives people the option to buy AMD. And that node you ran the grep on is what, .01% of that cloud's CPU footprint? Change is slow you say? How slow? AMD has been around since 1970. Any day now I guess.