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'Long Covid': Why are some people not recovering?
For most people, Covid-19 is a brief and mild disease but some are left struggling with symptoms including lasting fatigue, persistent pain and breathlessness for months.
The condition known as "long Covid" is having a debilitating effect on people's lives, and stories of being left exhausted after even a short walk are now common.
So far, the focus has been on saving lives during the pandemic, but there is now a growing recognition that people are facing long-term consequences of a Covid infection.
Yet even basic questions - such as why people get long Covid or whether everyone will fully recover - are riddled with uncertainty.
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'Long Covid': Why are Some People not Recovering?
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MATH AND ALCOHOL DON'T MIX!
Please, don't drink and derive.
Mathematicians
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Drunk
Deriving
(Score: 2, Disagree) by RS3 on Monday October 12 2020, @05:13PM (11 children)
I had to read your post several times to grasp your message. What you're saying might be true in some cases / people.
Not expert and no time to research but IIRC people with darker skin need more sunlight to generate the same amount of D as lighter-skinned people.
My comment to TFS and most of the posts here is that we just don't have enough data, there is so much we still don't know about COVID-19 and viruses in general, and we haven't been able to correlate the data and knowledge we do have to make sense of it all. The very point of TFA is that there is huge variation in patient symptoms and outcomes and we're not really sure why. Speculation is good as long as we can track the data to support the various theories.
But even then people's body chemistry varies widely, and there may be human biochemistry factors we don't yet know about.
I remember early on the science was that blood-type was a big factor in COVID susceptibility, disease length and course, etc. It's nearly impossible to gather all of the possible factors in each patient's case, but at least there's great effort.
Personally I wish _everyone_ could take part in helping the medical science effort. Kind of like "mechanical turk", "zooniverse", etc. And maybe there are opportunities to help in the effort, and maybe it's been talked about in the media... but for me the media is so overwhelmingly politics that I barely pay attention.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 12 2020, @05:28PM (7 children)
But we do know what to do for scurvy. So if people are deficient in vitamin c and showing symptoms of scurvy, the next step is pretty clear.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday October 12 2020, @05:59PM (6 children)
Absolutely, agreed, and it's tedious to keep (over)stating the obvious.
I will concede a shortcoming in the medical world and maybe society in general: doctors / medical workers generally overlook diseases that they think have generally been wiped out, or that people don't get because common knowledge, proper diets, etc., - like scurvy.
Another example that's bugging me: months ago hand washing and hand sanitizer was all the rage (in the media). More recently masks have become the rage and controversy. Just from my casual observation, many people seem to have slacked off of the hand washing and sanitizer use. Initially you could not buy sanitizer if your life literally depended on it. Store shelves were empty, not being replenished. (no clue where it was going). Jerks were selling it at 10X prices. Fake stuff popped up here and there. Homemade recipes were everywhere. Now I rarely see / hear of it.
It'd be nice to have 1 place- website- that accumulates ALL of the common knowledge / precautions for COVID. Blood-type, vitamins, etc.
BTW, BBC article yesterday said new data shows COVID can last up to 28 days on hard surfaces. Far cry and big problem compared to the 2-3 days previously thought.
Not to be reckless, but would a 27-day old COVID virus cell cause an infection? How many such cells would be required to infect someone? If you handled such a thing, how likely could you be infected? What would be the mechanism?
Which reminds me of another that belongs on the list of things we heard but aren't being talked about much anymore: not touching your face, especially eyes, nose, and mouth, without good hand washing / sanitizer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 12 2020, @08:04PM (5 children)
Translation: someone decided that "second wave" is a good time to repeat the push for abolition of cash (remember the failed campaign in the spring?) Expect more horror stories with ever more outlandish claims.
Observe the more direct FUD headline: "Don't touch this! Coronavirus stays on banknotes, mobile phone screens and steel for up to 28 DAYS" [dailymail.co.uk]
Enjoy.
Observe how any horror-reducing observation are relegated to "*" and "**" and tiny little unreadable font in the infographics. Isn't that nice?
Note that the actual facts like "Samples were incubated in the dark to limit any effect light might have on viral decay" never entered the nice article(s).
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-020-01418-7 [biomedcentral.com]
Note that PIN keyboards are never mentioned, apparently being miraculously protected from The Coronavirus by holy dispensation of Big Finance.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday October 12 2020, @08:55PM (2 children)
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 12 2020, @09:37PM
BAAAAAA!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 12 2020, @10:55PM
https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/sheeple-masks.jpg [henrymakow.com]
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday October 14 2020, @03:17AM (1 child)
At least Canadian banknotes can be washed with soap and water.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @09:22AM
Slow down there, Hendrik. Everybody knows laundering money is illegal.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday October 12 2020, @07:32PM (2 children)
OTOH, there is also evidence, how definitive I don't know, that blacks/negros/AfricanAmericans (except the source was British)/whatever-name-you-prefer metabolize vitamin D differently than Caucasians do. It didn't mention orientals, etc. It didn't say in what way they were different, but merely suggested that using the same yardstick might be a bad idea. (IOW, it didn't have an alternative suggestion. It did suggest that lower levels might not be a problem, but gave no reasoning or evidence.)
Sometimes the needed evidence isn't available. But keeping your levels of Vitamin D up seems like a good idea...just don't overdo it, because that also has it's problems.
Anyone who is dogmatic about ANY of these points is a fool. The evidence isn't there to support the claim. But the evidence for moderate levels of various vitamins and minerals is pretty strong, and SOME people benefit from doing so. (OTOH, there's also evidence that viruses often do better in people who are "well-nourished", but that term was not defined in the report I read. So perhaps that just meant overweight.)
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 12 2020, @07:56PM (1 child)
Anyone dogmatic about trying vitamin c for someone with low vitamin c levels and symptoms of scurvy is a fool?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 13 2020, @06:10AM
More like a vitamin C addict, snorting lemons and oranges. Get help.