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posted by azrael on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the use-as-much-as-you-want dept.

A developer affiliated with boycottsystemd.org has announced and released a fork of systemd, sardonically named uselessd.

The gist of it:

uselessd (the useless daemon, or the daemon that uses less... depending on your viewpoint) is a project which aims to reduce systemd to a base initd, process supervisor and transactional dependency system, while minimizing intrusiveness and isolationism. Basically, it’s systemd with the superfluous stuff cut out, a (relatively) coherent idea of what it wants to be, support for non-glibc platforms and an approach that aims to minimize complicated design.

uselessd is still in its early stages and it is not recommended for regular use or system integration, but nonetheless, below is what we have thus far.

They then go on to tout being able to compile on libc implementations besides glibc, stripping out unnecessary daemons and unit classes, working without udev or the journal, replacing systemd-fsck with a service file, and early work on a FreeBSD port (though not yet running).

Responses from the wider Linux community are yet to be heard.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @08:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @08:55AM (#96218)

    This article seems to paraphrase one on pipedot.org posted a few hours before this one. Did someone just copypasta and then use a thesasaurus?

    What gives?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @09:11AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @09:11AM (#96222)

    I never quite understood the relationship of pipedot to soylent.

    Weird, too. Pipedot looks pretty cool and appears to be running on a new platform (which is a commendable effort), but apparently there's some weird back-alley deal(s) with Soylent that lets them repost or share each other's articles.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 21 2014, @10:40AM

      There isn't one per se aside from them both being created for the same reason and the founders of both being on good terms. Odds aren't bad the same person submitted both though as we do have a fair amount of user crossover. If all else fails, ask Xenix Aficionado; I know I at least monitor the comments of articles I submit.

      Also, pipedot articles don't tend to sit in the accepted-but-not-yet-published queue for quite as many hours before they show up so it could very well have been posted to both sites within minutes of each other. Right now regular users, and even team members who aren't site admins like myself, can't see what's been queued but look for that feature in the 14.10 update.

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    • (Score: 2) by romlok on Sunday September 21 2014, @10:50AM

      by romlok (1241) on Sunday September 21 2014, @10:50AM (#96242)

      For a while Pipedot were brazenly scraping Soylent's articles and comments. They seem to have realised that it was rather antisocial behaviour now though, so good on them for stopping.

      When it comes to (almost) identical articles between the two sites, this could be simply because the article submitter posted the same story to both sites, as some people do/have done also with Slashdot.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @11:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @11:34AM (#96255)

        For a while Pipedot were brazenly scraping Soylent's articles and comments

        As an avid pipedot reader, let me remind you that the "scraping" thing was a test, lasted for about 24 hours and was ran in agreement with SN's head.

        Second, the community at pipedot also reacted against it, so the thing was quickly dropped anyway.

        Finally, yes, there are many cross-posts by submitters, which as far as I know they're free to do (or is SN taking and enforcing the copyright on the stories once published ? honest question). Recently we had a bunch of recent and less recent articles from SN reposted to pipedot by their authors. Some have been accepted, some not.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @12:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @12:58PM (#96295)

      Regardless of the relationship, Pipedot seems totally dead compared to this site. There are actually comments here for most submissions. Over there, it's a great achievement when a submission gets more than 3 comments.

      • (Score: 2) by zafiro17 on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:37PM

        by zafiro17 (234) on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:37PM (#96410) Homepage

        It's true this site is getting more comments than Pipedot, but "number of comments" isn't a great indicator. Slashdot gets a huge number more comments than Soylent does, and yet the bulk of those comments are of poor quality. Pipedot and Soylent can coexist, as can Slashdot and even Usenet's comp.misc. Each place has a different crowd, a different flavor, and a different way of communicating. It's all good.

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        • (Score: 2) by zafiro17 on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:40PM

          by zafiro17 (234) on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:40PM (#96411) Homepage

          How funny - I just went over to slashdot, where I see it's hit their front page today too, so now the uselessd article has been published at all three venues, in increasing-size order. Nice.

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      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:47PM

        by HiThere (866) on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:47PM (#96416) Journal

        Pipedot also has fewer stories. There's probably a relationship. Usually I come to SN first, then go to Pipedot. I'm unlikely to follow the discussion twice unless I'm really interested.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:48PM (#96417)

        The title of every post in a thread there is displayed as h1.
        That's ridiculous.

        Maybe they have a stylesheet that improves that.
        Don't know. By default, I only download viewable text.
        If a site doesn't degrade gracefully, it's badly designed.

        (S/N does this as h4; much more intelligent.)

        ...and the fact that threading on Pipedot comment pages isn't obvious to me just makes them another beta.

        -- gewg_