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posted by azrael on Sunday September 21 2014, @07:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the use-as-much-as-you-want dept.

A developer affiliated with has announced and released a fork of systemd, sardonically named uselessd.

The gist of it:

uselessd (the useless daemon, or the daemon that uses less... depending on your viewpoint) is a project which aims to reduce systemd to a base initd, process supervisor and transactional dependency system, while minimizing intrusiveness and isolationism. Basically, it’s systemd with the superfluous stuff cut out, a (relatively) coherent idea of what it wants to be, support for non-glibc platforms and an approach that aims to minimize complicated design.

uselessd is still in its early stages and it is not recommended for regular use or system integration, but nonetheless, below is what we have thus far.

They then go on to tout being able to compile on libc implementations besides glibc, stripping out unnecessary daemons and unit classes, working without udev or the journal, replacing systemd-fsck with a service file, and early work on a FreeBSD port (though not yet running).

Responses from the wider Linux community are yet to be heard.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @01:08PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @01:08PM (#96302)

    Did you actually read what you linked to? Have you ever done any actual shell script or software debugging on Linux?

    Debugging init scripts sounds FAR easier than doing that sort of systemd debugging that's described. Binary log files? Jesus Christ, that has just made debugging 8x harder, even if there are tools to work with those binary log files. And what's to say that these complex tools are even working if the system is really screwed up? Nothing! Yet we can usually rely on sh and ed to be working, since they follow the UNIX philosophy by doing one thing, and doing it really damn well.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @03:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 21 2014, @03:03PM (#96343)

    I know very little about systemd, but I have been a unix dev for 20+ years now and one thing I am qualified to say is that binary log files are a terrible, terrible thing. They should only ever be used when the alternative is no log files. They are so unfriendly to developers, and it has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it. Being able to manually run them through a translator is only good enough for the most low-impact bugs.