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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday October 25 2020, @10:43AM   Printer-friendly
from the second-wave dept.

Ireland to impose 5km travel limit in strict new Covid lockdown:

Ireland is to close much of its economy and society in a second Covid-19 lockdown that imposes some of the severest restrictions in Europe.

Non-essential shops will close and people are asked to stay at home, with a 5km (3 mile) travel limit for exercise, to curb surging infection rates, the government announced on Monday evening.

From midnight on Wednesday the country will move to its highest lockdown tier for six weeks. Visits to private homes or gardens will not be permitted and there are to be no gatherings except for tightly controlled weddings and funerals.

A graduated fine system for those who breach the 5km travel limit – with exceptions for work and other purposes deemed essential – will be announced later this week. People who live alone or are parenting alone can pair with one other household as part of a support bubble. Two households can meet outdoors within the travel limit. Public transport will operate at 25% capacity.

Non-essential retail will close along with barbers' shops, beauty salons, gyms, leisure centres and cultural amenities. Pubs, cafes and restaurants will be allowed to serve takeout meals only, a devastating blow to an already weakened hospitality sector.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2020, @05:06PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2020, @05:06PM (#1068569)

    Can we discuss why the numbers are so different in the US? Consider 26,058 cases with 1,848 deaths in NJ vs. 48,387 cases with 588 in ND?

    Those numbers aren't accurate. In NJ, there have been 227,339 cases and 14,492 deaths. [arcgis.com]
    In ND there have been 37,718 cases and 456 deaths. [nd.gov]

    That makes NJ's Case Fatality Rate (CFR) = (14,492/227,339 = ~6.4%) and 0.16% of NJ's total population
    And ND's CFR = (456/37,718 = ~1.2%) and 0.06% of ND's total population

    The majority of deaths/cases in NJ were much, much higher in the March-May time frame, when we had less information on how to test/trace and treat folks. [arcgis.com]

    Cases in North Dakota were much lower in that time frame, and cases have been exploding for the last two months. [nd.gov]

    Also, NJ has a population density of 1,211 people/sq. mile, while ND has a population density of 9.7 people/sq. mile. Higher population density having a strong impact on transmission.

    What's more, NJ is the most densely populated state in the US with nearly 9 million people in an area of 8,729 sq. miles, while ND has the 47th (out of 50) population density and has a population nearly 12 times smaller (~762,000) in an area nearly nine times larger (70,700 sq. miles).

    Given the much lower population density of ND, the better and more formalized treatment protocols since May, as well as much stricter isolation of vulnerable populations and more widespread testing/tracing, coupled with the much later onset of widespread transmission there, it's unsurprising that the death rate is much lower in ND than in NJ.

    Does that answer some of your questions?

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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Monday October 26 2020, @01:25AM

    by legont (4179) on Monday October 26 2020, @01:25AM (#1068725)

    So, the death rate in ND is what - roughly 6-7 times lower than in NJ while the post I replied to compared Ireland with Sweden where the difference is just 20-30%; probably way withing noise level, but people are using it to compare policies, which are hugely different.

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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Monday October 26 2020, @02:09AM (1 child)

    by legont (4179) on Monday October 26 2020, @02:09AM (#1068739)

    Also, NJ has a population density of 1,211 people/sq. mile, while ND has a population density of 9.7 people/sq. mile. Higher population density having a strong impact on transmission.

    This is misleading. About a third of ND population resides in Fargo metropolitan area where density is above 2000 ppl/sq mile.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 26 2020, @06:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 26 2020, @06:14PM (#1068996)

      NJ has a bunch of rural areas too, so the density in Newark, etc (near NY City) is hugely higher than the state average.