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AMD Announces RX 6000 Series "RDNA 2" AKA "Big Navi" GPUs

posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday October 28 2020, @11:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the graphic-news! dept.

takyon writes:

AMD announced its first RDNA 2 (Radeon RX 6000 series) gaming GPUs during a live stream (24m42s) on October 28.

AMD originally planned for RDNA 2 to have 50% more performance per Watt than GPUs using the RDNA 1 microarchitecture. Now, AMD is claiming 54% more performance per Watt for the RX 6800 XT and RX 6800, and 65% more performance per Watt for the RX 6900 XT. Part of the efficiency gain is due to the use of "Infinity Cache", similar to the L3 cache found in Ryzen CPUs. This allowed AMD to use a 256-bit memory bus with 2.17x the effective memory bandwidth of a 384-bit bus, while using slightly less power.

The RX 6900 XT ($1000) has performance comparable to Nvidia's RTX 3090, with a total board power (TBP) of 300 Watts. The RX 6800 XT ($650) is comparable to Nvidia's RTX 3080, also with a 300 Watt TBP. The RX 6800 ($580) is around 18% faster than Nvidia's RTX 2080 Ti, with a 250 Watt TBP. All three of the GPUs have 16 GB of GDDR6 VRAM and 128 MB of "Infinity Cache".

The 6800 XT and 6800 will be available starting on November 18, while the 6900 XT will be available on December 8.

Also at Tom's Hardware, Phoronix, Ars Technica, and Guru3D.

Previously: Nvidia Announces RTX 30-Series "Ampere" GPUs
AMD Announces Zen 3 CPUs

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  • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Friday October 30 2020, @12:42PM (3 children)

    by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 30 2020, @12:42PM (#1070806)
    Dude, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO YOU BUY FROM. I build BOM for Cisco UCS and HP all day long. We never sell direct from NVidia except in special cases (at least not since waaay back when they first launched GRID). Max vCS is 8 VMs per host per license, Linux only. If you want to do Windows, and do VDI or published apps, you have to buy vApps, vDWS or vPC, and that is per CCU only. If your source of truth is the Dell configuration tool, it's either adding the CCU license for you and you just don't realize it, or it's letting you do something that isn't legal.

    VIRTUAL GPU SOFTWARE EDITIONS

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    NVIDIA vGPU software is available in four editions: NVIDIA GRID Virtual PC (GRID vPC), NVIDIA Quadro® Virtual Data Center Workstation (Quadro vDWS), GRID Virtual Applications(GRID vApps), and NVIDIA Virtual ComputeServer (NVIDIA vCS).

    GRID vPC This product is ideal for users who want a virtual desktop but need great user experience leveraging PC Windows applications, browsers and high definition video.

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    Virtual PC delivers a native experience to users in a virtual environment, allowing them to run all of theirPC applications at full performance.Quadro

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    This edition is ideal for mainstream and high-end designers who use powerful 3D content creation applications like DassaultCATIA, SOLIDWORKS, and 3DExcite, Siemens NX, PTC Creo, Schlumberger Petrel, or Autodesk Maya. NVIDIA Quadro® Virtual Data Center Workstation allows users to access their professional graphics applications with full features and performance, anywhere,on any device.

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    For organizations deploying XenApp, RDSH or other app streaming or session-based solutions. Designed to deliver PC Windows applications at full performance. NVIDIA GRID Virtual Applications allows users to access any Windows application at full performance on any device, anywhere.This edition is suited for users who would like to virtualize applications using XenApp, RDSH or other app streaming or session-based solutions. Windows Server hosted RDSH desktops are also supported by GRID vApps.

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    VGPUSOFTWARE LICENSING AND PRICING

    GRID vPC, Quadro vDWSand GRID vApps are available on a per Concurrent User (CCU) model. A CCU license is required for every user who is accessing or using the software at any given time, whether or not an active connection to the virtualized desktop or session is maintained.

    NVIDIA vCSis available on a per GPU model. A GPU license is required for every GPU that will host vCS-enabled VMs. A single vCS license enables a maximum of 8 concurrent VMs.

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    There is no option to do VDI without a CCU license from NVidia. None. You really need to contact your Dell rep to have them go over this with you. And again, it does not matter where you buy the license from, for example:

    https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/hci-solutions/hcvdivds_nvidia_licensing.html [netapp.com]

    https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/data-center-virtualization/desktop-virtualization-solutions-vmware-horizon-view/whitepaper_c11-739654.pdf [cisco.com]

    https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=a00059765enw [hpe.com]

    I'm not a troll buddy. I'm the guy competent customers buy things from. Now I'll admit, VDI is not my shtik.

    That's apparent

    I'm mostly storage and compute. But I do build some for vdi every quarter. When you say you've never been a customer and you sell this stuff, then other places you say things only a customer would say: "If you sold me a solution for VDI and vGPUs I'd be pissed when the cards won't work because you didn't tell me I needed to buy licenses for them." that makes me think you lied so much you forgot what lies you told. sold you a solution? so you're buying them. strange, now you say you're selling them. why don't you make up your mind about what you do, then get back to us.

    That was a hypothetical. I have never, in my career, been employed by a end-user company. I've been implementing, selling, and architecting Citrix and VMWare VDI solutions since the Winframe days.

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  • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Friday October 30 2020, @10:48PM (2 children)

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Friday October 30 2020, @10:48PM (#1071085)

    Yes, and the CCU license comes in a base package that sets a max. usually 96 or 192 CCUs. That does not make it a per user license. Just like your 10Gb/month plan does not make it a per-byte plan. What is it you're not getting here?

    When you buy a 5-seater car, that is the max you can fit in the car. It's not a car that charges you per seat. I'm really boggled the mind gymnastics you're doing here. Yes, you can buy grid licenses per user. But it is not limited to that - you buy a package with a max CCU included. That is not a per-user license. A per user license is about $350, per user. That is not the only option, nor a common option.

    Seriously, what is it you do not understand here?

    • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Saturday October 31 2020, @03:46AM (1 child)

      by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 31 2020, @03:46AM (#1071169)
      Nice try dipshit

      • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday October 31 2020, @10:47AM

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday October 31 2020, @10:47AM (#1071225)

        and now you lose. backed into a corner, instead of addressing the actual points, you have nothing.

        btw, I don't believe you for a second from the way you talk that you build or sell anything. you're a customer, and someone from a VAR showed you a configurator once, then you read some pdfs. you say you quote out UCS. that's a great test, since google won't give you the answer. to build a UCS config and quote it out, what is the url of the cisco site?

        nice try, linux admin at midsize commercial account.