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posted by martyb on Tuesday September 23 2014, @09:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the drawing-between-the-lines dept.

Voters in Scotland have turned down independence for now, but separatist movements continue across Europe, possibly threatening to dismantle Spain, France, and Belgium as well as the UK. The next milestone will be an independence vote on Nov. 9 in Catalonia, the region on the northeast coast of Spain which includes Barcelona; separatists are expected to win handily, but the vote is not binding on the Spanish government. Slate has a neat map showing what a completely redrawn Europe would look like, if accommodations were made for all movements that have joined a loose collective called European Free Alliance; a more complete but visually less satisfying map, including EFA holdouts such as Northern Ireland, appears in Wikipedia. The Washington Post has thumbnail descriptions of eight movements.

 
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  • (Score: 1) by VLM on Tuesday September 23 2014, @01:40PM

    by VLM (445) on Tuesday September 23 2014, @01:40PM (#97144)

    first of all thats E-F-A's map not slates. Slate is just pimping it for ad clicks. L+M cigarettes used to continually run an ad with the statue of liberty in magazines, but that doesn't mean it was L+M's statue.

    http://www.e-f-a.org/whos-who/member-parties/ [e-f-a.org]

    Or its like claiming its actually zerohedge's map, solely because ZH was posting it roughly daily in the month leading up the scotland elections. Maybe still is, haven't checked today. Probably posted today as usual on ZH, probably with Catalonia commentary again.

    ZH has had a fixation on this "problem" for a couple months. There's a lot of discussion of irregularities in the scotland vote because everyone expected it to be the fuse for the powder keg. By rigging the vote and intimidating voters enough and using the BBC for propaganda in the worst way seen since WW2, they might "save" the status quo for maybe another extra year, maybe two rather than it all unraveling this year.

    Of course bottling up pressures just makes for a bigger explosion later. See our entire world wide financial system, the country of Iraq, the GD middle east in general, the Ukraine, etc.

    One interesting result of the scotland election thats carefully not reported anywhere but ZH and some offshore sites is the "stay in the union" vote mapped almost exactly like newspaper delivery over age. So if you're 25 the odds are about 90% that you voted for independence and you do not real a legacy paper printed newspaper, and the graph is a straight line to 75 where the odds are about 90% that you voted to stay in the union and you're a lifetime legacy printed newspaper subscriber. The newspaper data is interestingly the same percentages in midwestern USA. Please spare the the agony of pointing out I rounded to one sig fig and the actual number is 7% subscriber vs 87% independence or whatever, I'll end with that disclaimer that I'm well aware the vote wasn't precisely 90.0000000%. The general point stands, once people grow up and have no idea WTF a printed newspaper is (like my kids) then a successful independence vote is utterly inevitable.

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