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"Oh Jeeeesus": Drivers react to Tesla's full self-driving beta release
Last week, Tesla released an early version of its long-awaited "full self-driving" software to a limited number of customers. It was arguably Tesla's biggest Autopilot update ever. The software enables Tesla vehicles to autonomously navigate the vast majority of common roadway situations and complete many trips from start to finish.
[...] In another video, Brandon's Tesla was making a left turn but wasn't turning sharply enough to avoid hitting a car parked on the opposite side of the cross street. "Oh Jeeeesus," Brandon said as he grabbed the steering wheel and jerked it to the left. "Oh my God," Brandon's passenger added.
"That was a good example of this is still beta and how important it is to have control at all times," Brandon said. "It just steered directly into the back of this parked car, and it wasn't going to brake."
To be fair to Tesla, we don't know that either of these incidents would have necessarily led to a crash. Maybe the software would have realized its mistake and hit the brakes at the last second. And Brandon's overall impression of the technology was positive.
Minutes earlier, Brandon had raved about the software's performance. "Compared to when we did the drive two days ago, it's so much smoother," Brandon said. "The improvements from two software releases ago is incredible."
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday November 02 2020, @09:14PM (4 children)
Not sure what your point is. Mine was that autopilot does not mean "fully self-driving." You seem to agree yet are posting like you disagree. The autopilot in tesla is designed so you can take your hands off the wheel for over a minute. After a minute it beeps, after another minute it slows down and stops the car. This is a fact. I'm guessing your solution is the second someone takes their hands off the wheel while going 65 on the highway, the car should pull over on that highway?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 02 2020, @10:38PM (2 children)
No, the autopilot in a Tesla is designed with the idea that the human driver is supposed to be ready take over at any instant in case the autopilot does something wrong. That's exactly how Tesla tells people how to use it. If you crash a Tesla because you took your hands off the wheel and the autopilot fucks up - it doesn't matter that it's within 60 seconds. Your retarded ass will get blamed for the crash because you are too fucking stupid to use the system improperly.
Yes, it behaves the way you describe, and Tesla has gotten a fair amount of criticism for that (rightfully so), just like how they have gotten a fair amount of criticism for calling it "autopilot" in the first place (also rightfully so).
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday November 02 2020, @11:19PM (1 child)
so you're agreeing with me that tesla's autopilot is the same as a plane autopilot - not fully autonomous, like autopilot has meant for 100 years, and saying it shouldn't be called autopilot, because it matches the characteristics of the autopilot not being fully autonomous. damn man, your mental gymnastics are easy to get lost in, but I figured it out. You're saying not to water wet because the presence of water means something is wet. I got it now.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @12:05AM
No, the difference is that an autopilot in a plane lets you safely divert your attention elsewhere for a bit, whereas an autopilot in a Tesla does not allow you to do that. Well, using it safely as per Tesla's instructions, not using it in the way that Tesla allows you to get away with. Several people have tried, and utterly failed, to drill that simple point into your stupid brain.
(Score: 2) by theluggage on Tuesday November 03 2020, @12:56PM
...but you made Tesla's use of "fully self driving" your line in the sand, and seemed to be defending their previous use of "autopilot" (which the average moron in the street will take to mean "fully self driving" anyway) via the aviation analogy. There's no comparison between driving within inches of other cars along winding roads at constantly changing speeds and an aviation environment where you're following fixed courses for hours at a time and in which passing within a few seconds flight time of another aircraft would be a notifiable incident.
No - the one minute limit is the figleaf that Telsa uses to defend it's reckless promotion of autopilot.
...and eject the driver onto the verge, lock the doors and call the police. The day that it will be safe to take both your hands off the wheel while driving will be the day that someone releases non-beta, no ifs, no buts autonomous driving that has been so completely tested and proven that the driver is no longer held responsible for any accidents while using it.