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posted by n1 on Tuesday September 23 2014, @08:56PM   Printer-friendly
from the trying-not-to-be-evil? dept.

Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt today said it was a “mistake” to support the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a group that has said human-created climate change could be “beneficial” and opposes environmental regulations. Schmidt said groups trying to cast doubt on climate change science are "just literally lying."

Google’s membership in ALEC has been criticized because of the group’s stance on climate change and its opposition to network neutrality rules and municipal broadband. Earlier this month, Google refused to comment after 50 advocacy groups called on the company to end its affiliation with ALEC.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 23 2014, @10:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 23 2014, @10:13PM (#97365)

    I'm starting to see more people, usually far right-wing, give up denying anthropogenic climate change. However, they're not giving up their position that we shouldn't do anything about it. They now admit that it's happening, and that it will be catastrophic, but it's the price we're all going to pay for economic freedom (free enterprise capitalism with little regulation) which is more important. I even had one person tell me he'd rather see the human race come to an end as long as our last days were lived in freedom, than continue on under the slavery of eco-socialism.

    We are never going to win over these people. Their brains are just running different software. Live free or die is something they take literally, and their definition of living free includes being allowed to pollute the earth as much as they can if it's profitable. They don't recognize negative externalities as a problem that can or should be solved.

  • (Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Tuesday September 23 2014, @10:25PM

    by BasilBrush (3994) on Tuesday September 23 2014, @10:25PM (#97370)

    Fuck 'em. They're a minority and most of us are living in democracies.

    The problem of course is that whilst they are a minority, they have a number of extremely wealthy people amongst them that are a corrupting influence on politicians.

    Which mean "fuck 'em" involves more than just ignoring them.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 23 2014, @11:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 23 2014, @11:26PM (#97398)

      They're a minority

      No, they're the majority. [soylentnews.org]
      THAT is where they get what power they have.
      Your lot is very loud, but y'all are a tiny minority.
      Even the farmers in the Red states in fly-over country know their growing seasons are changing, storms are getting more plentiful and more nasty, and water is getting more dear.
      ...and stapling tea bags to your hats doesn't suddenly make you the controlling force in the world.

      they have a number of extremely wealthy people amongst them that are a corrupting influence on politicians

      You should go ahead and name some of those folks.
      Here, I'll get it started: Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers...
      Oh, wait. Those are the guys on the OTHER side, who have already bought up lamestream media and are trying to buy up the political system (and with the help of SCOTUS are doing a bang-up job of that).

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  • (Score: 1) by art guerrilla on Tuesday September 23 2014, @10:48PM

    by art guerrilla (3082) on Tuesday September 23 2014, @10:48PM (#97383)

    i have been reading an interesting book on authoritarianism recently, which posits that RWA ('right wing authoritarians', not *exactly* meaning in terms of dem'rats vs rethugs), and how not only is there a strong correlation to conservative politics and politicians, but fundie religions as well... hardly surprising when you think about it, but proven in repeatable tests...

    now, these 'high-RWA' people do NOT require facts/truth/science on their side to 'believe' in their fearless leader's bullshit, period: ALL they 'require' is Big Daddy with a big megaphone mouthing the morally vacuous, self-contradictory platitudes they so desperately want to believe in, evidence to the contrary be damned (literally)...

    these people constitute approx 25% of nearly any population on thisy here ball-o-mud... as we said, they are self-righteously 'right' ALL THE TIME; and if that means they shout the EXACT opposite of what they 'believe', on the basis of their Big Daddy telling them so, then they will do so without blinking...
    they are ABSOLUTELY highly motivated, they are easily led by psychopathic leaders, and they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead...

    have you bio-nerds found a genetic marker for that ? ? ?

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday September 23 2014, @11:19PM

      by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 23 2014, @11:19PM (#97396) Journal

      There is some scientific evidence [sciencedirect.com] you should peruse to help balance your perspective.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @08:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @08:35AM (#97545)

        Love it how you suggest the grandparents findings aren't scientific. And then you confuse the meaning of the word right despite grandparent explains it doesn't mean the left-right political distinction albeit there is a heavy correlation.

        I suggest the same to you as you to GP, go read on RWA. It might surprise you.

  • (Score: 2) by hoochiecoochieman on Wednesday September 24 2014, @11:09AM

    by hoochiecoochieman (4158) on Wednesday September 24 2014, @11:09AM (#97575)

    I presented a theory that the deniers have multiple walls of denial. One by one, the walls go down, overthrown by the sheer weight of truth. But after one wall, there's always another.

    First, global warming was a lie spread from multimillionary evil scientists that wanted grant money. Then, it's no more a lie, but it's not being caused by humans. Then it's caused by humans, but it's not a problem, it's beneficial. Then it's not beneficial any more but the markets will fix it.

    The current wall is "the markets can't fix it, but we shouldn't do anything, because that would be pot smoking tree hugger abortionist islamo fascist gay communism and we'd all rather be dead." Could this one be the last wall?

    I guess not. The next wall is that we should pray while the seas rise, hurricanes strike and marine life dies from acidification. Pray. That will fix it.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 25 2014, @06:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 25 2014, @06:23AM (#98110)

    Live free or die is something they take literally, and their definition of living free includes being allowed to pollute the earth as much as they can if it's profitable.

    No, the definition of "living free" for them is the freedom to exploit anyone and anything for personal gain, fuck everyone else. Their definition of "living free" is the freedom to be the sociopaths that they are without any consequences.

    These sociopaths are a danger to everyone. People like these who don't understand that their rights end where others' bodies and well-being (emotional, physical, economic, and spiritual) begin need to be exiled. THESE are the people who need to be locked up, away from society, not the people that currently fill most prisons - people hurting nobody and only being punished for being in possession of a plant or other chemical.