That the Democrats lose House seats, do not win the Senate and barely manage to drag their demented presidential candidate towards a stalemate tells a lot about their lack of sane policies. A donor party completely disinterested in what the people really want - medicare for all, no fracking etc. - will have little chance to survive a future onslaught of conservatives with a more competent figure head than Donald Trump. ...should Trump lose this election, Trumpism will only grow and make the U.S. ungovernable.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 05 2020, @04:18PM (29 children)
Biden is up by over four million votes already.
When all the couniting is done it will likely be as high as an eight million vote win.
That's not close! That's electoral college ratfuckery!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @04:36PM (16 children)
You fail to understand your own political system. It is the election of a President of 50 States, not of 320 million people.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 05 2020, @04:44PM (15 children)
We're gonna win by the rules of that system. I'm just saying it's fucked that we need at least four million extra votes to make it happen.
National popular Vote passed in CO, by the way. Sorry khallow!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Thursday November 05 2020, @04:58PM (14 children)
No, it's fucked, that despite all his hostility and bullshit, the democrats still can't get 40 million votes to make it happen. You still don't get the message.
As predicted, congress is still ~50-50. Exactly how the Party wants it. The best the dems can accomplish is deadlock (which now we need), story of their lives..., more correctly their intention all along. The Broadway play is a smashing success
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @05:38PM (2 children)
Exactly. Because if the democrats had won the prez, and overwhelming majorities in the House and the Senate, then they would actually have to govern instead of argue and complain about "obstruction". They would have no excuse, if they had all the votes.
Now they can continue to complain about being "obstructed" by the republicans, which of course their base will believe because CNN will tell them it is true, and they can continue as they were.
Their worst nightmare would have been to have now been on the hook for actually doing something, with only themselves to blame for the inevitable blowup.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @06:27PM (1 child)
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday November 05 2020, @07:22PM
Nobody is giving the GOP a pass. The democrats catch their well deserved shit because they don't really oppose the republicans. If they did, the numbers would reflect a real massive popular support for them.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 05 2020, @07:51PM (9 children)
Biden has over 72 million votes right now. That's the most any President has ever gotten.
Are you saying we're supposed to flip 40 million Fox viewers? I don't get what you're trying to say...
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday November 05 2020, @08:13PM (2 children)
So what? The other guy isn't far behind. The candidates that you cling to are not very motivational. You remain totally dependent on the other guy's fuck ups to "flip" any votes. In the meantime there's a whole shitload of non voters that you can try to convince that your party is different and not fully complicit. As usual that campaign never goes anywhere.
And congress? Oh well... Botched that even worse. Steady as she goes...
For Trump? Yeah, we can blame the democrats [washingtonpost.com]...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @09:13AM
The other guy is a Looser! A Tosser! A Wanker! A Republicant! Sucks to be him! Oh, the humilitation! The shame! The personally secured loans!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @09:03PM
You still can't get a delusional lefty to understand that DJT didn't win, HRC lost. Literally any other Democrat would have beaten Trump. The sole thing that got him elected was half the population voting against "Killary".
Then they tried to repeat that feat with the second most hated senile idiot they could find, and almost succeeded.
(Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Thursday November 05 2020, @10:07PM
Hello fren,
We must mobilize the forces of truaninonashufodoprezure.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 05 2020, @10:10PM (4 children)
Allow me to repeat that I'm a conservative minded person who would have happily voted for Tulsi. So I agree with Fusti: it's a shame that Biden wa the best you could offer.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @04:50AM (3 children)
And when it comes to Trump you say "I wish he would shut his mouth" because you're perfextly fine with his type of fascism. Here is what his good friend and founder of your favorite 'newz' site had to say recently.
Quality people you prop up there boy.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2020, @05:32AM (2 children)
Titty for tatty: You're happy to prop up petty dictators who have clearly stated that they have no respect for the Constitution which they are sworn to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
No sworn officer of the United States has sworn to defend the government, or to defend any particular office. They are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. That includes the Second Amendment, just as much as any of the rest of the constitution.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @06:20AM
We are going to take you out, Runaway! We will do it by not responding to your posts. Your journals with rot and die on the vine, from lack of comments. Your election commentary will go unnoticed, un-commented upon, unremarked. We will have nothing to say to you. Yes, this is harsh, since we know you have no friends anywhere else, but for the same reasons those friends dumped you, we at SoylentNews must also bid you adieu. Goodbye , Runaway.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @07:39AM
zombies
oh
my
god
i've eaten your brainz runaway, and gnawed on that titty too. little too much gristle but what's a zombie gunna do? as i tried to explain, even texas has gun control. i'm not sure who i'm talking to at this point, since i can't catch a whiff of brains even around your ears. even we zombies have rotting brainz.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @10:06AM
A good number of congresscritters are ripe for covid. Keep it on the exponential like now for 2-3 weeks, overflow [youtube.com] the hospitals with Runaways and then bless mitch mcconnell and his ilk with rona.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @05:31PM (7 children)
You knew the rules going in.
Popular vote: Ignore it: does not count for shit.
Electoral College Vote: this is the only thing that matters.
If you dislike the Electoral College system, then work on convincing your congress critters to work on changing the rules.
But don't bother pointing to a value that is meaningless when you knew what the rules were going in to the election.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 05 2020, @07:35PM (6 children)
Yes, and Biden is going to win by those rules.
No, it demonstrates how truly unrepresentative to the will of the people the Presidency is.
Yes and yes. I am a proponent of the National Popular Vote for the Presidency and with my direct help we just passed it in CO.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 05 2020, @07:38PM (2 children)
Also, we launched Senator Corey Gardner out of town on that trebuchet from the Simpsons they launched the real Skinner with.
That doesn't have much to do with the NPV, honestly, I'm just bragging a bit.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @09:42PM (1 child)
Look at you twisting the facts. The totally not real Skinner impersonator was tied to a flat car and run out of town. Rex Banner was launched out of town by a catapult, not a trebuchet. Typical for a Y'all-Qaeda libtard to come up with alternate facts to suit their agenda! /s
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 05 2020, @10:15PM
Without beer, prohibition doesn't work!
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday November 05 2020, @09:35PM (2 children)
Could still be premature. (God help us all) Trump might still win.
I'm not celebrating until it is official. Maybe not even until they have to send the military in to the white house, destroying parts of it, to drag the fascist out of there on Jan 20. But I'll wait and see what the future may hold.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @09:45PM
Nah, he'll spend a few hours "inspecting" the bunker before running like the manchild he is to pretend like he is taking the high road.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @11:54PM
Indeed. I'm not really going to breathe easy until Biden is sworn in on Inauguration Day.
No. What is most likely is that just after Biden takes the oath of office the Secret Service will lift Trump up by his belt buckle, carry him out of the White House and unceremoniously dump him on the South Lawn. Either that or Trump flees in his private jet to Moscow to become (even more of) Putin's bitch.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2020, @09:40PM (3 children)
We dodged the bullet this time, barely, provided that NV does in fact go D or if GA goes D. It won't be so easy next time. Optimistically we have 8 years to build an alternative to the conservative Democratic party. However, I think we only have 4 years. Biden/Harris is going to be more status quo (hence conservative) neoliberalism. The failures of neoliberalism will drive a more powerful fascist movement in 4 years.
ISA/Socialist Alternative USA: Drive Out Trump and Shut Down the System! [internationalsocialist.net]
(emphasis mine)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @12:00AM
Indeed, I think you are correct. Biden/Harris will need to score some quick victories which appeal to a broad bipartisan swathe of America. If they can manage to do that, they might manage to get four more years and pull the country back from the brink of fascism. God, I really hope they succeed in that!
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday November 06 2020, @06:31AM (1 child)
This just might be a Pyrrhic victory for the Democrats -- even I have accepted the possibility of a Biden/Harris presidential win, however, they should be careful what they wish for. They've inherited the double-whammy of Antifa/BLM and COVID lockdowns, so it will be in peoples' minds to blame Democrats/progressives whether or not those problems magically disappear upon the Biden coronation (thanks a lot for costing small business owners our livelihoods, assholes), or if those have become Golems outside of their control and ChiCom Pelosi and her army of Jewish pedophiles in Californian government want the lockdowns extended for another couple years. Everybody knows that Trump fought the lockdowns (saying that he didn't believe in 'science' or something), so now the Democrats are stuck either further oppressing everybody or tacitly admitting that it was all a sham.
It's now mainstream in my city that businesses are going to disobey any further lockdown orders, I'm seeing more and more people shed the masks even in official capacity. Keep the people locked down and we might just see patriots fighting alongside Antifa and BLM, and it won't be pretty for Jewish neighborhoods -- though it would be the desired outcome for Chinks and Jews who want to see America fall and buy cheap property as results of strife and misery. Big tech already pissed off people (except Jews) on both sides and revealed who they actually are, and that even folks who toe the line can be deplatformed on a whim.
Should Biden and Kamala win, their best option is to do nothing and pretend Republicans are stopping them from doing anything, just like how the last 4 years have been. Americans will still be broke while Israel gets its billions of funding and American soldiers dying for them in the sandbox, but at least domestic unrest will be staved off around the homefront.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @09:17AM
Poor Ethanol_fearaddled! The Jew-bear is gonna get him. Now he has no where to hide, unemployed, friendless, in Greenland?