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(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @12:39PM
(46 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @12:39PM (#1073702)
I feel those terms are a bit hyperbolic. A Biden administration will likely find itself with a similar problem as the Obama administration did: being rendered ineffective by an uncooperative Republican-led senate. It would be a step back to gridlock, albeit with a more rational executive branch. That is still a superior outcome to another term of Trump.
Really? Cause I think the guy's a shitty President and didn't vote for him either time. Seems to me like she's that way to anyone who isn't lockstep Berkeley.
How many people have you invited to leave SN now? The hatred does come through, frequently. Tell us - why is it that you want to be an editor? Do you hope to be in a position to make those invitations more forceful?
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
I haven't been able to do any editor stuff thanks to life being busier than a one-armed bricklayer with a case of hellacious dandruff.
And no, I don't intend to force anyone out, you paranoid little chud. How would an editor even do that anyway? As far as I know all editors do is clean up bot submissions and post them, and I've done all of one of those. That said, if my tone bothers people so much, they can leave. Don't want the fire, don't poke the dragon.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
If my replies are boring you so hard, don't ask for them. ...or, y'know, leave. You're so damn predictable, and as shallow as scuba-diving in a shot glass.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
If you don't like it...doorknob, arse'ole, etc. That's not hate, little boy. Not unless rolling my eyes so hard the cords in back of them ache is hate.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
I am more of a "wall" than you are. I am the immovable object, and you pretend to be the irresistable force. You go ahead, and trot off to Canada, because your force really doesn't amount to much. Go ahead and tell yourself that all that anger and hatred are somehow "useful" to you. Maybe one day, you will understand that it an obsession, and it has served you no good purpose after all.
Or, you can just post another hate-filled diatribe in your journal. They are tending toward monotonous, but you do what you want to do.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Yeah, aren't you glad he won? Without his "obstruction" the dems might actually have to pass legislation they keep promising but don't really want. Their whole villain rotation game goes out the window
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
Ahhhh, but you don't have a liberally biased Supreme Court to help sneak shit through that the voters outright reject.
Don't ever forget Proposition 8 in California. There is a LOT to be learned from Prop 8. The funniest lesson is, your Dems didn't understand the Latino demographic and the STILL DON'T!
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @09:24PM
(5 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @09:24PM (#1073901)
Some things shouldn't be up for a vote at all, like individual rights. Being able to marry any consenting adult that you want is not up for debate, and nor should it ever be.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @11:10PM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @11:10PM (#1073951)
I have nothing but contempt for voters who would try to take away basic human rights from anyone, just because they have a majority. We need to extirpate bigoted religions, and make it illegal for them to oppress those they disagree with. Free speech, and freedom of choice are absolute. Anyone who holds otherwise needs to be liquidated.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:23AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:23AM (#1074061)
"Don't be the generic idiot."
Don't be Runaway? Cause you are the shining example of Republican douchery here on SN. No one was taking away any rights?
"Sec. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
So under the law same sex couples can not be afforded the same legal rights? Oh right, "don't be the generic idiot." Well I'm not, but you seem to have a continuing hardship with the english language.
So I assume if the popular opinion ever swings the other way you'll shut up always and forever about this, since it will then be majority decision? ...and that you want the electoral college abolished? :D Please, what you mean is "Whaaaaa, whaaaaa, people are holding MY views in contempt!" Tell you what, when Lisa and I get married, I'll send you a signed wedding photo.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
A Biden administration will likely find itself with a similar problem as the Obama administration did: being rendered ineffective by an uncooperative Republican-led senate.
Yes, that is the way it's supposed to work. They need the 50-50 split so that one side can blame the other for "obstruction". They did an exceptional job this time. Went almost too smoothly
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @01:12AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday November 07 2020, @01:12AM (#1074003)
Hard to believe that. The place is filled with low grade shit not even suitable for fertilizer.
Trump was primarily a distraction. His job was to distract everyone from the government not simply being minimized, but destroyed utterly. For that kind of job, there is no more useful idiot than a psychopathic narcissist. The Koch bros found one who doesn't usually melt down in front of TV cameras.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @03:20PM
(6 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @03:20PM (#1073761)
I think the biggest changes we'll see in the short term probably involve how the pandemic is handled. I really expect two things here:
1) Biden will provide clear and consistent guidance to the governors and actually lead. Trump has pretty much declined to lead and provided inconsistent guidance, leaving a messy patchwork of policies at the state level. States complained that they don't have the resources they need. I expect Biden will be better here.
2) Scientists will be free to provide guidance again and it will be welcome. Dr. Fauci will be taken seriously by the new administration. He'll be allowed to freely speak to the press. For that matter, the Biden administration would listen to climate scientists, too.
That said, I suspect DeathMonkey was referring to the election results. Biden is now ahead in Georgia and Pennsylvania. That changed overnight. We'll need to wait and see Trump's response, but I can't imagine it'll be anything good.
As for the Senate, there's some hope, but Democrats will have to compromise with moderate Republicans. If it's 51-49 and Biden is president, Democrats really would just need Susan Collins to vote with them. Depending on the issue, they might be able to get support from a few other Republican senators like Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, and perhaps a few other moderate senators. Rand Paul may side with the Democrats on a few issues. This helps with confirmations and a certain types of bills like the federal budget, but it almost certainly wouldn't allow Democrats to pack the courts or eliminate the filibuster on legislation. But short of having 60 Democrats in the Senate, something that was never realistic in this election, it was always going to take the nuclear option or compromise with moderate Republicans to advance a lot of legislation.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @05:59PM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @05:59PM (#1073817)
As for the Senate, there's some hope, but Democrats will have to compromise with moderate Republicans.
Yep, I agree. I voted for Obama twice but one of the things that I found irritating about him was his inability to get bipartisan support. To be sure, much of the problem was the Republican strategy of making sure that our first African-American President would be a one-term President but I think Obama could have helped himself by being a bit less adversarial in response; he shouldn't have been quite so eager to snap at that bait. I'm hoping that Biden will do better on the bipartisan front. What we need right now is for Biden to be the Democrat version of Ronald Reagan. Reagan at least knew how to effectively reach across the aisle to get things done.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @11:04PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @11:04PM (#1073948)
That's likely, as he ain't an uppity nigger who got too big for his britches. amirite?
I fear that there may now be a bit too much truth in the room. Unfortunately, Moscow Mitch was never going to let that <dripping sarcasm>damned negro interloper</dripping sarcasm> in the White House negotiate anything. Of course, Biden is not Obama, so that changes the dynamic quite a bit. Even better would be if Mitch were to just have a quick heart attack and die already. For the sake of the nation, of course.
I think they've called it for runoffs in both the GA Senate races.
So we won't even know who controls the Senate until those are resolved. Amazingly, it looks like Dems have the mid-term advantage these days. Trump really did get his people out, I guess you gotta give that some credit.
A margin of plus 1 or 2 in the Senate doesn't do shit for Dems unless we get rid of the filibuster. It's only useful to Republicans because all they want to do is block everything. Republican's jobs are a lot easier because their agenda is to literally do nothing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @08:52PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday November 06 2020, @08:52PM (#1073874)
You are seeming to forget the most important thing that Republicans did to screw themselves if they lose power. They held a vote to send the vote confirm ACB to the full Senate against the rules of the Senate and committee. They then voted on the floor to ignore that particular violation. Now the Democrats are given the gift to turn around and do the same thing whenever they want.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @12:39PM (46 children)
I feel those terms are a bit hyperbolic. A Biden administration will likely find itself with a similar problem as the Obama administration did: being rendered ineffective by an uncooperative Republican-led senate. It would be a step back to gridlock, albeit with a more rational executive branch. That is still a superior outcome to another term of Trump.
(Score: 2, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 06 2020, @01:51PM (21 children)
A bit? She makes Trump zealots look stoic.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday November 06 2020, @05:12PM (3 children)
Only when dealing with Trump zealots.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @12:44AM (2 children)
Really? Cause I think the guy's a shitty President and didn't vote for him either time. Seems to me like she's that way to anyone who isn't lockstep Berkeley.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:14AM (1 child)
Lockstep Berkeley? Weird the hate fetish you morons have for a small city on the west coast.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:04PM
They've put a lot of effort into earning it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 06 2020, @08:06PM (14 children)
Shove the tone-trolling, shitbird. No one's buying it. If you don't like my tone, feel free to leave. That's freedom of association :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2020, @09:08PM (10 children)
How many people have you invited to leave SN now? The hatred does come through, frequently. Tell us - why is it that you want to be an editor? Do you hope to be in a position to make those invitations more forceful?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @11:07PM
It is the number of people she has invited in. Real People, some Americans. We are legion. Your days are numbered, Old Man!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 06 2020, @11:09PM (8 children)
I haven't been able to do any editor stuff thanks to life being busier than a one-armed bricklayer with a case of hellacious dandruff.
And no, I don't intend to force anyone out, you paranoid little chud. How would an editor even do that anyway? As far as I know all editors do is clean up bot submissions and post them, and I've done all of one of those. That said, if my tone bothers people so much, they can leave. Don't want the fire, don't poke the dragon.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2020, @11:24PM (7 children)
*yawn*
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 06 2020, @11:47PM (6 children)
If my replies are boring you so hard, don't ask for them. ...or, y'know, leave. You're so damn predictable, and as shallow as scuba-diving in a shot glass.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 07 2020, @12:01AM (5 children)
And the hate beats on. "Leave, leave, leave!" You needn't be so obvious, do you?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:17AM
Aww the means words too much? Sorry snowflake, reality doesn't care about your feelings!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 07 2020, @06:54PM (3 children)
If you don't like it...doorknob, arse'ole, etc. That's not hate, little boy. Not unless rolling my eyes so hard the cords in back of them ache is hate.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 07 2020, @06:57PM (2 children)
Roll 'em some more silly girl.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:04PM (1 child)
You just can't stop yourself, can you? :) Please, by all means, continue bashing your empty head into this wall.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:17PM
I am more of a "wall" than you are. I am the immovable object, and you pretend to be the irresistable force. You go ahead, and trot off to Canada, because your force really doesn't amount to much. Go ahead and tell yourself that all that anger and hatred are somehow "useful" to you. Maybe one day, you will understand that it an obsession, and it has served you no good purpose after all.
Or, you can just post another hate-filled diatribe in your journal. They are tending toward monotonous, but you do what you want to do.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @12:46AM (2 children)
Tone trolling? Bitch, please. You don't get to go running around penning hundreds of rage posts and then say you're calm and rational. Pick one.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:44AM
Hey buzzy, you in here being stupid? Cool, steady as she goes bruh.
lmgtfy.com
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 07 2020, @06:44PM
"I'm not tone trolling! But your tone offends meeeeeeeeeeeeee~!"
Offense is taken, not given, as I could swear someone we both know said once :) Again...if you don't like it, *leave.* No one will miss you.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:03AM (1 child)
“We demand a recount in Jesus’ name!” [apnews.com]
(Score: 1, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:06PM
I'm sorry, did you think this was Europe? Being armed does not make you a criminal or even a shady character here.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 06 2020, @03:02PM (8 children)
Yep, but at least we won't have to explain the filibuster this time when we accuse Moscow Mitch of obstruction.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday November 06 2020, @08:51PM
Yeah, aren't you glad he won? Without his "obstruction" the dems might actually have to pass legislation they keep promising but don't really want. Their whole villain rotation game goes out the window
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2020, @09:11PM (6 children)
Ahhhh, but you don't have a liberally biased Supreme Court to help sneak shit through that the voters outright reject.
Don't ever forget Proposition 8 in California. There is a LOT to be learned from Prop 8. The funniest lesson is, your Dems didn't understand the Latino demographic and the STILL DON'T!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @09:24PM (5 children)
Some things shouldn't be up for a vote at all, like individual rights. Being able to marry any consenting adult that you want is not up for debate, and nor should it ever be.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2020, @09:34PM (4 children)
That was what one judge decided, yes, and you agree with him.
The voters had a different opinion, but you have nothing but contempt for the voter.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @11:10PM (2 children)
I have nothing but contempt for voters who would try to take away basic human rights from anyone, just because they have a majority. We need to extirpate bigoted religions, and make it illegal for them to oppress those they disagree with. Free speech, and freedom of choice are absolute. Anyone who holds otherwise needs to be liquidated.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2020, @11:22PM (1 child)
No one was taking away any rights from anyone with the Prop 8 vote. Don't be the generic idiot.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:23AM
"Don't be the generic idiot."
Don't be Runaway? Cause you are the shining example of Republican douchery here on SN. No one was taking away any rights?
"Sec. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
So under the law same sex couples can not be afforded the same legal rights? Oh right, "don't be the generic idiot." Well I'm not, but you seem to have a continuing hardship with the english language.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 06 2020, @11:12PM
So I assume if the popular opinion ever swings the other way you'll shut up always and forever about this, since it will then be majority decision? ...and that you want the electoral college abolished? :D Please, what you mean is "Whaaaaa, whaaaaa, people are holding MY views in contempt!" Tell you what, when Lisa and I get married, I'll send you a signed wedding photo.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday November 06 2020, @03:12PM (7 children)
Yes, that is the way it's supposed to work. They need the 50-50 split so that one side can blame the other for "obstruction". They did an exceptional job this time. Went almost too smoothly
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @12:48AM (6 children)
I prefer it that way. It keeps either group of assholes from shitting the place up too badly.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @01:12AM (2 children)
Hard to believe that. The place is filled with low grade shit not even suitable for fertilizer.
Trump was primarily a distraction. His job was to distract everyone from the government not simply being minimized, but destroyed utterly. For that kind of job, there is no more useful idiot than a psychopathic narcissist. The Koch bros found one who doesn't usually melt down in front of TV cameras.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:08PM (1 child)
Um, who'd want to be distracted from that? If he'd come right out and said it I might have even voted for him.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:24PM
Antisocial. You are literally opposed to society.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday November 07 2020, @01:24AM (2 children)
The unthinkable alternative is to quit reelecting assholes. The government is you...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:09PM (1 child)
Speak for yourself. I voted Kanye.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:33PM
Mere facetiousness... Not a serious effort
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @03:20PM (6 children)
I think the biggest changes we'll see in the short term probably involve how the pandemic is handled. I really expect two things here:
1) Biden will provide clear and consistent guidance to the governors and actually lead. Trump has pretty much declined to lead and provided inconsistent guidance, leaving a messy patchwork of policies at the state level. States complained that they don't have the resources they need. I expect Biden will be better here.
2) Scientists will be free to provide guidance again and it will be welcome. Dr. Fauci will be taken seriously by the new administration. He'll be allowed to freely speak to the press. For that matter, the Biden administration would listen to climate scientists, too.
That said, I suspect DeathMonkey was referring to the election results. Biden is now ahead in Georgia and Pennsylvania. That changed overnight. We'll need to wait and see Trump's response, but I can't imagine it'll be anything good.
As for the Senate, there's some hope, but Democrats will have to compromise with moderate Republicans. If it's 51-49 and Biden is president, Democrats really would just need Susan Collins to vote with them. Depending on the issue, they might be able to get support from a few other Republican senators like Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, and perhaps a few other moderate senators. Rand Paul may side with the Democrats on a few issues. This helps with confirmations and a certain types of bills like the federal budget, but it almost certainly wouldn't allow Democrats to pack the courts or eliminate the filibuster on legislation. But short of having 60 Democrats in the Senate, something that was never realistic in this election, it was always going to take the nuclear option or compromise with moderate Republicans to advance a lot of legislation.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @05:59PM (2 children)
Yep, I agree. I voted for Obama twice but one of the things that I found irritating about him was his inability to get bipartisan support. To be sure, much of the problem was the Republican strategy of making sure that our first African-American President would be a one-term President but I think Obama could have helped himself by being a bit less adversarial in response; he shouldn't have been quite so eager to snap at that bait. I'm hoping that Biden will do better on the bipartisan front. What we need right now is for Biden to be the Democrat version of Ronald Reagan. Reagan at least knew how to effectively reach across the aisle to get things done.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @08:49PM (1 child)
That's likely, as he ain't an uppity nigger who got too big for his britches. amirite?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @11:04PM
I fear that there may now be a bit too much truth in the room. Unfortunately, Moscow Mitch was never going to let that <dripping sarcasm>damned negro interloper</dripping sarcasm> in the White House negotiate anything. Of course, Biden is not Obama, so that changes the dynamic quite a bit. Even better would be if Mitch were to just have a quick heart attack and die already. For the sake of the nation, of course.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 06 2020, @08:16PM (2 children)
I think they've called it for runoffs in both the GA Senate races.
So we won't even know who controls the Senate until those are resolved. Amazingly, it looks like Dems have the mid-term advantage these days. Trump really did get his people out, I guess you gotta give that some credit.
A margin of plus 1 or 2 in the Senate doesn't do shit for Dems unless we get rid of the filibuster. It's only useful to Republicans because all they want to do is block everything. Republican's jobs are a lot easier because their agenda is to literally do nothing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2020, @08:52PM (1 child)
You are seeming to forget the most important thing that Republicans did to screw themselves if they lose power. They held a vote to send the vote confirm ACB to the full Senate against the rules of the Senate and committee. They then voted on the floor to ignore that particular violation. Now the Democrats are given the gift to turn around and do the same thing whenever they want.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday November 07 2020, @12:15AM
I'm not sure who ended the filibuster for Judges Trump has been abusing but now it's our turn!