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Integration with systemd Making Gnome3 the Default Debian Desktop

posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday September 24 2014, @06:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the better-together dept.

jbernardo writes:

Debian Jesse is going to have Gnome3 as the default desktop.

The desktop re-qualification page, used to help choose which desktop will be default, has in the Jesse version a weight for systemd integration, and of course only Gnome3 does it (at least for now). This will surely make the systemd/gnome3 fanbase happy, but possibly will make others unhappy, as it [may] be seen as another step towards mono-culture, until we soon end up with all distros being redhat clones.

 
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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @09:56AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @09:56AM (#97557)
    I'll stick to Windows for desktop purposes and wait for the Desktop Linux bunch to stop sabotaging Desktop Linux (at least server linux still works). Might be unfair to call it sabotage but look at the market share which Android and OSX have got and the speed in which they got it. And Chromebooks too. And then look at the weird stuff the Desktop Linux bunch do every now and then, especially when the times were ripe for more switches (Vista, Windows 8).

    Yes in theory you can fork entire distros if you don't like them... But I don't need to. They can keep their GNOME or KDE till Microsoft goes completely insane.

    I was a bit concerned there wouldn't be any viable desktop path when the abomination called Windows 8 came out. But it looks like Microsoft will backpedal a bit with Windows 9. So they haven't gone completely insane yet.
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  • (Score: 2) by efitton on Wednesday September 24 2014, @01:41PM

    by efitton (1077) on Wednesday September 24 2014, @01:41PM (#97649) Homepage

    Microsoft cares about money. Windows 8 was an attempt to leverage their desktop into the phone market. It failed and is starting to cost them business. Hence the backtrack with Windows 9. GNOME cares about, actually I have no idea. It certainly isn't having a user base. The shiny from Day and McCann? Beats me, but logic is getting no where and the funding is irrelevant and having users is irrelevant so away they go. At some point KDE or Cinnamon or MATE will clearly be ahead but it is amazing how the GNOME minority flexes its muscles to get their way with being the default in so many distributions.

    That doesn't address KDE and their "semantic desktop" or what will happen with the cluster that is gtk+ but... Winning? Year of Linux on the Desktop? Think I'll go cry myself to sleep now.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @03:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @03:26PM (#97710)
      Yeah I was going to say something similar about GNOME too (e.g. they don't seem to care), but since I haven't been using GNOME it would be more of hearsay coming from me.

      There might be hope for KDE yet - if they really hold to the "simple by default, powerful when needed" philosophy.

      Good defaults are important because >90% of them would be what 90% of the users would be using. This makes tech support easier, adoption by corporations easier. If you pick crappy defaults and practically everyone has them changed then most installs would end up being their own unique snowflake and that makes support harder. Powerful when needed (without resorting to conf file editing) is great too especially if discoverable - since that also makes support easier.

      But for some reason many (most?) of the major distros seem to prefer GNOME. I have no idea why.

      In contrast with the Windows Metro UI, discoverability dropped a LOT. Even merely logging out is harder than it was before and harder than it should be.