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posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday September 24 2014, @06:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the better-together dept.

Debian Jesse is going to have Gnome3 as the default desktop.

The desktop re-qualification page, used to help choose which desktop will be default, has in the Jesse version a weight for systemd integration, and of course only Gnome3 does it (at least for now). This will surely make the systemd/gnome3 fanbase happy, but possibly will make others unhappy, as it [may] be seen as another step towards mono-culture, until we soon end up with all distros being redhat clones.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @01:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24 2014, @01:32PM (#97642)

    What about rolling your own Linux distro without the nasty bits...

    Doesn't Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) let you do that easily?

  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday September 24 2014, @04:10PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Wednesday September 24 2014, @04:10PM (#97738) Journal

    You could but at this point it is moot. Systemd is here to stay. All the bitching and empty threats to jump ship to *BSD or Slackware is simply not doing anything. Shell script kludge is Unix cruft that needs to be avoided in certain places. Systemd fixes that using IPC albeit it includes functionality that is of scope for an init system (e.g. an NTP client).

    My current thoughts on systemd are this: it's intended goal of being a more modern pid1, init and process manager is needed. But I don't like the kitchen sink approach so I am a bit weary. Systemd is not the end-all be-all of init systems. And I believe that down the road things will change and any extraneous nonsense will be removed or changed. Plus we already have uselessd (use-less)which aims to trim the fat from systemd and remove the dependency on glibc. So if systemd sucks hard enough, we can simply drop in an alternative without breaking downstream package dependency. That is the beauty of open source.

  • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Wednesday September 24 2014, @04:38PM

    by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 24 2014, @04:38PM (#97760) Journal

    What about rolling your own Linux distro without the nasty bits...

    Doesn't Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) let you do that easily?

    I've ignored the debate/outrage but I won't accept binary logs so I'll have to avoid systemd.

    Among the alternatives Funtoo [funtoo.org] looks the most tempting to me because of this [funtoo.org]. I would almost certainly change to a different desktop environment than Gnome (MATE is decent and what I use now).

    But sure LFS is also a possibility. Recently someone gave me a link to Minimal Linux Live [linux-bg.org] which also looks like fun if one can spare the time :) It uses BusyBox so no systemd or init or udev.

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