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Journal by DeathMonkey
Honestly, it's just pointing out the obvious at this point.
But... We all know damn well that if Trump was in this electoral situation right now the race would've been called already.
I wanted to celebrate today!
Getting drunk on a Saturday isn't a celebration. That's just a Saturday....
They would've called it by now if the result was reversed.
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Now KEN and BARBIE are PERMANENTLY ADDICTED to MIND-ALTERING DRUGS ...
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:45AM (5 children)
The man-child-in-chief can't stand bad news. They and every other adult in the room know it is over. So they, like the wine mom taking her last sip in relative silence before making her kids do their homework, are just taking a moment, playing along, and stretchi this time out for as long as possible. Once the weekend comes along, they don't want to miss out or get called in on their time off after this week. Expect something big on Saturday morning to get real news in time for the big shows on Sunday or breaking news just in time for the evening news come the start work week. Then they get to watch as he throws his fit and get to run interference as he tries to break as much as possible on the way out. And the news cycle starts anew [youtube.com].
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 07 2020, @01:22PM (3 children)
LOL, "it's over".
Did you notice that they found about 6000 votes in one county in Michigan that were counted wrong because "software"? They are examining all the other counties now for similar problems.
No, it's not over yet. It may not be over until some time in December.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:08PM (2 children)
No, DeathMonkey did not. Because his news source is CNN, which hides from him anything that is not negative news about Trump. They simply don't even show it, and therefore he has no idea it even exists. That is what makes him a "low information voter". He only knows about half the news, the half his CNN programmers picked for him to see. Why do you think he has such a distorted view of the world? His news source has been manipulating him for four years, and he's too programmed now to even be capable of noticing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:21PM
FTFY. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:21PM
According to cnn, it is impossible to rig an election now.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tweetydimes/status/1324506084418199558 [twitter.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @04:28PM
They just called it for Biden.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @12:57PM (4 children)
I will neither celebrate nor mourn until I see who is inaugurated on Jan. 20th.
My little part in this process, voting, is over but the rest of the process continues. What the media claims does not matter. What this or that person says on Twitter does not matter, nor does it even matter who is and who is not censored there (although it's darkly amusing).
There are fights taking place in ballot counting places, government meeting rooms, and court rooms -- thus far, verbal fights. There may yet be fights in the streets (well, more fights in the streets). No one yet knows how these things will turn out, although many try to state the fight is won already and we should stop fighting, which is a good try to get your opponent to give up without having to actually defeat them.
I will neither celebrate nor mourn until I see who is inaugurated on Jan. 20th.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:51PM (3 children)
We already know that an old, white, racist, pussy-grabbing, conservative man will be inaugurated. We just don't know if it's the Original or Classic flavor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:10PM (2 children)
Trump isnt racist or conservative. Hes a lifelong big government spending democrat who equally mistreats everyone who isnt orange in his quest for getting the best deal.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @04:45PM (1 child)
There it is, the typical republican back tracking. What cowards.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @05:45PM
Ive been saying that since 2016.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:00PM (6 children)
No, they wouldn't. Calling shit early and being dead wrong during Bush/Gore put an end to calling results before they were a mathematical certainty.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:29PM
Bidens fake car crowd: https://youtu.be/Dk7WG0Ovdr0 [youtu.be]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:55PM (4 children)
> No, they wouldn't. Calling shit early ...
What planet are you on? Trump has been saying "I win" for weeks now. Maybe he's said it so often that you have stopped noticing?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:18PM (3 children)
TMB's not referring to Trump's bluster. He's referring to the media calling things.
What you are directly seeing right now is exactly how long it always took to count the vote. The reason you were never aware was that the news media, in order to convert the election into entertainment to keep you watching the commericals, would predict who was the winner in each state long before the final vote tallies came in.
All those late night sessions watching the "returns" come in, and watching state after state go red or blue -- all just predictions based on mere fractions of the total vote in each state.
This predicting game got to be so bad that in 2000 the entertainment cartels (CNN/MSNBC/FOX) actually called Florida for Gore, then in the middle of the night had to reverse that and call it for Bush (because they had predicted without enough gap in the margin to be safe making the prediction). Since Florida's electoral votes were the difference between who won they had another "Dewy defeats Truman [wikipedia.org]" debacle on their hands.
The result of that bad prediction in 2000 reigned in the entertainment cartel's willingness to predict without clear margins that can't be accidentally turned around by the final counts The result is that in close races (such as this one now) you get to see just how long the vote counting actually takes, because they are not feeding you a guess early to keep you "entertained".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @04:23PM (2 children)
According to 4chan Q scholars trump watermarked all the valid ballots.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @04:50PM (1 child)
Pissing on the voter is now the new watermark?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:22PM
Watch the water!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @02:23PM (10 children)
Voting machines made in russia and owned by democrats have been glitching all over the country and switching votes so republicans win.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/antrim-county-results-election-2020/6185031002/ [freep.com]
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2020/11/06/oakland-county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/ [freep.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:01PM (9 children)
Shill? Or just simple BS??
Neither of your Detroit Free Press links include the word Russia or Russian.
The second one includes this explanation of the mistake, now corrected:
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:12PM (4 children)
Oh , it was china not russia. But all hardware comes from china so not surprising. https://archive.is/AydjQ [archive.is]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:27PM (1 child)
Bullshit. There was a communication error, not a voting machine error. Did you read the article?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:40PM
The first sentence:
> A computer error led election officials in Oakland County to hand an upset victory Wednesday to a Democrat, only to switch the win back to an incumbent Republican a day later.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:48PM (1 child)
> Oh , it was china not russia.
Stupid shill can't tell the difference between China and Canada. Pro tip [sarcasm], you have to look past the first letter, the other letters in English words also count.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @04:31PM
> Concerns also exist about the companies' software and hardware supply chains. A report released last month by Interos found that at least one major voting system vendor sourced parts and components out of China, where U.S. officials have raised general concerns about supply chain compromise. The report did not identify the vendor, but witnesses from all three of the major manufacturers acknowledged they relied on Chinese-made gear. Lawmakers expressed concerns that such hardware and software could open the door to compromise or sabotage by bad actors.
Burt said his company had a "limited" number of components that come from China, claiming many amounted to plastic or metals that make up the device, not IT. However, he acknowledged that for at least one of ES&S' machines, the DS200, one of its nine programmable logic devices is sourced from a California company that produces the part in China.
Dominion Voting Systems CEO John Poulos and Hart InterCivic President Julie Mathis said their companies use Chinese-made LCD screen components, chip capacitors and resistors, arguing that in some cases there's no option for manufacturing those parts in the United States.
https://gcn.com/articles/2020/01/10/voting-equipment-security-requirements.aspx [gcn.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:25PM
There is always an "explanation" for "mistakes". There is always someone capable of pulling an explanation out of their ass.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:34PM (2 children)
Does it really matter? Utilizing software to count the votes is ripe for mischief. And the first rule of mischief is: "if it is possible to perform, with a low likelyhood of getting caught, it will happen somewhere".
You need to first go read "Reflections on Trusting Trust [win.tue.nl]". Then consider the authors of the software running on the "counting machines". If they followed Ken Thompson's concept from "Reflections on Trusting Trust [win.tue.nl]" all the paper trails from the machines certifying what software versions are running on them would "check out", yet the machines could still contain code that, as it tallies the votes, watches the margins and slowly changes random votes from R to D (or from D to R) in such a way as to effect the final count.
Unless the local poll workers do a hand count to verify, they will be none the wiser that when they dropped a stack of 10000 ballots that were 4000 R's and 6000 D's that the machine counted them as 5500 R's and 4500 D's). They just get a final number (5500 R 4500 D) and report it, even though it is a complete falsehood.
Which is why all the ballots should be counted by hand, with monitors watching from all candidates to verify no funny business. But doing that would not let the entertainment cartel (CNN/MSNBC/FOXNews) broadcast their entertainment shows, so that wont happen.
Next best would be random hand counts of stacks that went through the machine, without the software on the machine knowing this batch is going to be manually hand counted (remember VW's diesel-gate, where the software detected when it was being "tested" and adjusted itself to compensate and pass the test).
So reports of software miss-counting -- you should believe this to be true unless proven by a hand count otherwise, no matter which party benefited from the software miss-counting. It is way to easy to do in software, either purposefully (see Ken Thompson above) or simply by creating buggy software.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:50PM (1 child)
These "glitching" voting machines were connected to the internet.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065 [politico.com]
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436 [nbcnews.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:20AM
That is even worse. Now someone up to no good does not even have to risk showing their face at the polling place (or counting location) to cause mischief. They can relax in their home on the other side of the world and control the outcome remotely.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:28PM (3 children)
A naive reading of the congressional statute specifying election day might lead a simpleton to conclude that the only "legal" votes are the ones cast/received on that day. Then all this "early voting", and absentee votes received at later dates might be characterized as somehow "illegal". This might explain what the orange one is ranting about.
I'm not sure this is a winning strategy, but it is surely something that needs to be fully clarified.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:38PM (2 children)
The only legal votes are the electoral college. The states elect the president, not the people. If a state wants to use a hotdog eating contest or flip a coin to decide who gets the votes thats up to them.
Eg, Colorado just decided that their votes go to the winner of the national popular vote. Thus rendering their own state irrelevant for campaigning and pork purposes but that is totally legal.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @03:53PM
When I said "election day" I was referring to the day whereupon presidential electors are elected. I got no beef with electoral college.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @04:12PM
...and by statute, that hot-dog eating contest must occur on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November - not sooner nor later.