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Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.
The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.
[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."
He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."
Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.
Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.
Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.
IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.
See Also:
- https://www.foxnews.com/world/reaction-world-leaders-biden-presidential-election
- https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54836636
- Boris Johnson congratulates Joe Biden on US election win
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:20PM (10 children)
What makes you think he is gone. in 4 years he is going to go for it again, well assuming he is alive.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by meustrus on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:20PM (1 child)
He'd never win the primary. His base isn't enough if everyone else sees him as a loser. To most primary voters, a vote for Trump would mean a vote for the Democrats to keep the WH.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @06:50AM
In four years he's going to run as a Democrat.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:46PM (7 children)
And out of jail, Biden pledged not to pardon Trump [politico.com].
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Monday November 09 2020, @01:33PM (6 children)
II don't think Biden will be pardoning Trump, because I don't think Trump will be charged with anything. The "elite" don't go to jail unless they screw up in a way that hurts someone higher on the "elite" scale. (eg.Epstein was suicided because he embarrassed Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton.)
As an ex-president, Trump is pretty high on that scale. He didn't prosecute Hillary, they won't prosecute him.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday November 09 2020, @01:43PM (1 child)
Wanna bet? [9news.com.au]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Monday November 09 2020, @02:06PM
Yep. I think all the official cases wil evaporate.
.He might still be sued by some of those people in civil actions, but there won't be any criminal charges. People in power don't like setting precedents that might come back and bite them.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday November 09 2020, @10:51PM (3 children)
First off, when discussing Jeffrey Epstein, why is Donald Trump's name conspicuously missing from your list of people associated with him? It's not like the president can reasonably claim to have never been a part of Epstein's ring when there are photos, video, numerous witnesses, and sexual assault allegations saying otherwise.
Second, he has hurt lots of people and organizations in the "elite" end of society, such as approximately every major bank in New York City.
Third, whether people like him normally do go to jail, would you agree that in the interests of justice and the rule of law, he ought to if he committed major crimes? You mention that he never prosecuted Hillary Clinton for anything, but that might have something to do with not having *any* evidence outside of conspiracy-theorist fantasies with which to do so.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday November 10 2020, @12:28AM (2 children)
No there really aren't. They moved in the same high finance/rich people circles and were photographed together once or twice. Every single article uses the same 20 year old photo of them together at a party. You could find as many photos of any other 1%'er talking to Epstein. Trump banned Epstein from his club years before it all blew up.
The whole drag-Trump-into-it thing was :
A/ Trump is Evil-Hitler-Satan therefore he must be involved in anything bad, and
B/ A successful attempt to distract from the fact that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's jet so many times, and spent so much time on his island.
C/ A successful attempt to avoid asking "Who else went on the plane and to the island?" It was not just Bill and Handy-Andy.
Certainly. I think he is probably guilty of many crimes, fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, etc. But just because I think he's guilty and should go to prison doesn't mean I think he will go to prison.
Ask somebody with a security clearance what would happen if they set up a private email server at home and sent classified material to it. It is a strict liability offense and they would go to prison.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 10 2020, @06:52PM (1 child)
Nice goalpost move.
The question isn't "Was Donald Trump the most closely associated rich guy with Jeffrey Epstein?" but "Was Donald Trump one of the people associated with Jeffrey Epstein?" And the answer is unquestionably "yes": There are media quotes from Donald Trump, physical evidence from Epstein, the aforementioned photos and videos, accusations of rape against Trump in particular by underage girls recruited by Epstein's ring, and, oh yeah, his not-very-subtle warning to Ghislaine Maxwell to keep her mouth shut if she knew what was good for her. Is he the sole suspect for Epstein's probable murder? No. Should he be ruled out as a suspect? Also no.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday November 10 2020, @11:35PM
Given how desperate the media and the democrats were to find anything to smear Trump, if there was any evidence it would be continually blasted out everywhere. There is one twenty year old photo of them apparently laughing together at a party. Soon after, Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for harassing young girls. He was also the only one to co-operate with the state AG when they went after Epstein in Florida in 2008.
So of all this video and photo evidence that they were closely associated, can you link to any other than that one ancient photo?
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.