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posted by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly

Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.

The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.

[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."

He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."

Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.

Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.

Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.

IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday November 09 2020, @10:51PM (3 children)

    by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 09 2020, @10:51PM (#1075373)

    First off, when discussing Jeffrey Epstein, why is Donald Trump's name conspicuously missing from your list of people associated with him? It's not like the president can reasonably claim to have never been a part of Epstein's ring when there are photos, video, numerous witnesses, and sexual assault allegations saying otherwise.

    Second, he has hurt lots of people and organizations in the "elite" end of society, such as approximately every major bank in New York City.

    Third, whether people like him normally do go to jail, would you agree that in the interests of justice and the rule of law, he ought to if he committed major crimes? You mention that he never prosecuted Hillary Clinton for anything, but that might have something to do with not having *any* evidence outside of conspiracy-theorist fantasies with which to do so.

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  • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday November 10 2020, @12:28AM (2 children)

    by deimtee (3272) on Tuesday November 10 2020, @12:28AM (#1075415) Journal

    First off, when discussing Jeffrey Epstein, why is Donald Trump's name conspicuously missing from your list of people associated with him? It's not like the president can reasonably claim to have never been a part of Epstein's ring when there are photos, video, numerous witnesses, and sexual assault allegations saying otherwise.

    No there really aren't. They moved in the same high finance/rich people circles and were photographed together once or twice. Every single article uses the same 20 year old photo of them together at a party. You could find as many photos of any other 1%'er talking to Epstein. Trump banned Epstein from his club years before it all blew up.
    The whole drag-Trump-into-it thing was :
    A/ Trump is Evil-Hitler-Satan therefore he must be involved in anything bad, and
    B/ A successful attempt to distract from the fact that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's jet so many times, and spent so much time on his island.
    C/ A successful attempt to avoid asking "Who else went on the plane and to the island?" It was not just Bill and Handy-Andy.

    Third, whether people like him normally do go to jail, would you agree that in the interests of justice and the rule of law, he ought to if he committed major crimes?

    Certainly. I think he is probably guilty of many crimes, fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, etc. But just because I think he's guilty and should go to prison doesn't mean I think he will go to prison.

    You mention that he never prosecuted Hillary Clinton for anything, but that might have something to do with not having *any* evidence outside of conspiracy-theorist fantasies with which to do so.

    Ask somebody with a security clearance what would happen if they set up a private email server at home and sent classified material to it. It is a strict liability offense and they would go to prison.

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    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 10 2020, @06:52PM (1 child)

      by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 10 2020, @06:52PM (#1075818)

      No there really aren't. They moved in the same high finance/rich people circles and were photographed together once or twice. Every single article uses the same 20 year old photo of them together at a party. You could find as many photos of any other 1%'er talking to Epstein.

      Nice goalpost move.

      The question isn't "Was Donald Trump the most closely associated rich guy with Jeffrey Epstein?" but "Was Donald Trump one of the people associated with Jeffrey Epstein?" And the answer is unquestionably "yes": There are media quotes from Donald Trump, physical evidence from Epstein, the aforementioned photos and videos, accusations of rape against Trump in particular by underage girls recruited by Epstein's ring, and, oh yeah, his not-very-subtle warning to Ghislaine Maxwell to keep her mouth shut if she knew what was good for her. Is he the sole suspect for Epstein's probable murder? No. Should he be ruled out as a suspect? Also no.

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      • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday November 10 2020, @11:35PM

        by deimtee (3272) on Tuesday November 10 2020, @11:35PM (#1075936) Journal

        Given how desperate the media and the democrats were to find anything to smear Trump, if there was any evidence it would be continually blasted out everywhere. There is one twenty year old photo of them apparently laughing together at a party. Soon after, Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for harassing young girls. He was also the only one to co-operate with the state AG when they went after Epstein in Florida in 2008.

        So of all this video and photo evidence that they were closely associated, can you link to any other than that one ancient photo?

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