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Journal by c0lo

(in the loving memory of Runaway1956, who succumbed after a long battle to gatewaypundits. May his brain rest in peace, squeaky clean and smoothed over)

because "Doing your own research" is far easier nowadays than building the habit of thinking critically.
Add COVID-anxiety, a chaotic narcissistic Orange clown and compound with the lack of survival problems to solve for the everyday life in a westernized society and (where appropriate) a good dose of American exceptionalism.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by DannyB on Thursday November 12 2020, @03:05PM (18 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 12 2020, @03:05PM (#1076586) Journal

    Instead of using "conservatives", I'll use the Republican brand name.

    There are some R's who realize that the party has left them. That the R party no longer represents what was once "conservative" values of a few decades ago. These are the former Republicans.

    The vast majority of those using the R brand name are the Trump cultists who are separated from reality and follow in lockstep with whatever Trump tweets. I feel sad for true rational people with conservative views who have been abandoned by their party.

    Just look at a recent election map. All of that red is people using the R brand and calling themselves conservative.

    The R's have no tolerance for any kind of difference. Not only a difference of opinion. But differences in skin color, national origin, religion, sexual orientation.

    I'll select two examples:
    1. abortion. There can be no middle ground to have legalized abortion with sane regulations.
    2. guns. There can be no middle ground to regulate firearms with sane regulations. Especially keeping crazy people from having guns.

    (interesting fact: there actually are democrats who own guns. They are not the ones that brag about it, or brandish firearms over some perceived provocation)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @03:30PM (16 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @03:30PM (#1076593)

    The people I know say leave it up to the states. Then you can go live in a state with abortion and no guns, or vice versa. What's the problem?

    They want diversity, not the one size fits all crappy-for-everyone monoculture that you want to force on everyone.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @06:00PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @06:00PM (#1076655)

      Some things are human rights. Abortion is a medical procedure that is a right for women. Live how you want, but guaranteeing rights for people is not a mono-culture oppression. We outlawed slavery, beheadings, and a variety of other cultural items that do not belong in a modern society.

      If yiu want Chraria law then YOU can follow it as long as you don't force it on others.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:18PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:18PM (#1076710)

        I dont really care about abortion, but Ive seen it lead to severe depression and mental issues that last for decades.

        I say do Kanye's solution. Give the mom an incentive not to do it, ie $50k/yr or $1 million until they turn 18.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 12 2020, @08:31PM (5 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday November 12 2020, @08:31PM (#1076736) Journal

          If you don't care why are you incentivizing anything?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @09:40PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @09:40PM (#1076757)

            Maybe because it is bad for her mental health when a mom kills her own baby? Isn't that what I wrote?

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:20PM (1 child)

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:20PM (#1076774) Journal

              Maybe some moms wouldn't be killing their babies if they had birth control. And could afford birth control. Or could afford to even care for and feed a baby -- while having a job.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:25PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:25PM (#1076777)

                Did you even read what you are responding to? Or can you only parrot talking points that dont apply?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @07:46AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @07:46AM (#1076953)

              But if that baby was Kanye, would it not work in reverse? I don't understand.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @07:51AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @07:51AM (#1076954)

              Maybe because it is bad for her mental health when a mom kills her own baby?

              Much better for the woman's mental health to keep the baby, and kill the father! Bite his fucking head off like a Royal Preying Mantis Momma! Yeah! You Rock, girl! So, the problem is not so much that we need to outlaw abortion, as we need to legalize any woman killing any fucking man, because he has it coming. Peace, at last. We start with the Catholic Priests, follow up with the tele-vangelicists, and finally end with ex-President of Liberty (alleged) University, Jerry Fallbad, Jr. Something about strangling the last something, with the entrails of the last other thing? It's famous. Look it up.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:23PM (3 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:23PM (#1076711) Journal

      What's the problem?

      The Constitution says we all have equal rights and protection under the law.

      The problem is when states try to violate that equal protection because states are not allowed to violate the Constitution.

      So for abortion, for example, can you think of a safe, regulatory-approved, surgery you could get a doctor to perform on you as a male that would require government approval?

      And conversely, do you think it's a good thing for your doctor to violate your confidentiality to inform the government of your private medical decisions?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:29PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:29PM (#1076713)

        So for abortion, for example, can you think of a safe, regulatory-approved, surgery you could get a doctor to perform on you as a male that would require government approval?

        Can I think of a regulatory-approved surgery that requires government approval?

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:46PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:46PM (#1076720) Journal

          Yes. You're semantics aren't even clever.

          If it has ALREADY been approved by the government are there any other surgeries that require a SECOND government approval before you are allowed to get it?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @08:06PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @08:06PM (#1076726)

            So you already know the answer is :

            Yes.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:15PM (3 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:15PM (#1076771) Journal

      Then you can go live in a state with abortion and no guns, or vice versa. What's the problem?

      Wiow. That sounds an awful lot like arguments I've heard about the civil war. The South was merely fighting for the right of a region to govern its own affairs and run their economy as they saw fit.

      About guns: I don't want there to be NO guns. As I said somewhere, some democrats own guns. What I want is for crazy people to not have guns. And maybe a minimum level of marksmanship, just as a drivers license requires a minimal level of driving competency.

      About abortions. I would prefer that there be no abortions ever. But I recognize that sometimes there are circumstances where a family is faced with a horrible decision. Like late in a pregnancy. If a women is waiting until late in the pregnancy to have an abortion, then it is obvious that she intended to give birth, and something has gone horribly wrong. A tragedy for the family. The government should stay out of it, and leave it to the doctor and the family to deal with. Someone who simply uses abortion as a form of birth control doesn't wait until late in the pregnancy and put themselves through all of the physical discomforts.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:46PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:46PM (#1076790)

        So youve got no real solutions in mind. Just want to force your lifestyle on everyone else. No different than the religious freaks.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @08:16AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @08:16AM (#1076958)

          My lifestyle involves hunting and despatching deplorables. They made a documentary about it, called, "Columbine". Maybe you saw it. Not forcing my lifestyle, just targeting deplorables. World is better off, I am happy, win-win situation.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @09:26AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @09:26AM (#1076971)

            So, you're an abortion doctor?

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday November 13 2020, @12:25AM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday November 13 2020, @12:25AM (#1076818) Journal

    There are some R's who realize that the party has left them. That the R party no longer represents what was once "conservative" values of a few decades ago.

    As the dems did to the liberals. Yet the liberals linger for some reason. Both should form their own financial institutions and political parties. The public is ripe for something "new"

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