(in the loving memory of Runaway1956, who succumbed after a long battle to gatewaypundits. May his brain rest in peace, squeaky clean and smoothed over)
because "Doing your own research" is far easier nowadays than building the habit of thinking critically.
Add COVID-anxiety, a chaotic narcissistic Orange clown and compound with the lack of survival problems to solve for the everyday life in a westernized society and (where appropriate) a good dose of American exceptionalism.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 11 2020, @05:54PM (29 children)
Can anyone cite a time in history when people DID NOT have a favorite conspiracy theory? "Slackening grip on reality" the title says. My question is, when has mankind ever had a grip on reality?
Isn't Qanon just a recycled old idea? Whatever happened to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Or the Illuminati? And, the Masons - I guess they have been rehabilitated, right?
Movement. Humanity has another collective bowel movement, and mankind collectively has to examine the results. Long and round, tapered on the ends. Mostly smooth and brown, with a few chunky bits, and possessing an odor slightly different than recent movements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories [wikipedia.org]
Wikipedia has an incomplete list of older conspiracy theories. Some have more evidence to support them, others have less evidence. Mehhh. Wiki leaves out a lot of older theories, some of which had impacts on history. How 'bout the Sinking of the Maine?
One nice thing about conspiracy theories is, they lend themselves well to the writing of novels.
Have any good novels been written about that whole Russian Collusion with Trump conspiracy theory? How about that Alt-Right conspiracy theory that a certain Soylentil has obsessed over for years now? I guess c0lo is going to jump into the Qanon rabbit hole, and see where it takes him. I won't be surprised if he comes face to face with Aristarchus down there. All those rabbit holes are connected, eventually. Qanon and Alt-right are in the same neighborhood after all.
https://www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/thinking/conspiracy.html [butte.edu]
https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/A-Brief-History-of-Conspiracy-Theories [owlcation.com]
One might suspect that conspiracy theories satisfy some psychological need of the human animal.
I find it kinda amusing that left/dem/progressive conspiracy theorists don't put their own thories forward, so much as they follow and theorize about those theories that are preoccupying centrist and right wing people. You guys are lacking in originality, aren't you? Come up with your own theories for a change.
Oh, wait. My bad. You HAVE come up with one, haven't you? That whole Critical Race Theory is a progressive conspiracy theory. Everything in history - that is everything - has been built on the black man's back, by evil white people. Sorry, gotta give credit where credit is due - you guys can be creative.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @06:23PM (14 children)
God damn yiu're stupid. Maybe god bless? You make for a good warning example of what Fox News and, somehow, less reputable newz sources can do to a brain.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 11 2020, @08:08PM (4 children)
I just realized something. Some of you people are quite young. Over and over again, you make silly statements which imply that an old man like myself has formed his attitudes and opinions, all based on Fox News. You youngsters seem to believe that Fox is some kind of old establishment news source or something.
Fox is only 24 years old. Did you realize that? And, additionally,
CNN is only 40 years old.
Me, stupid? If you say so. Then again, I formed my world view before there was a CNN, or a Fox, or even an internet. Each of those, in turn, has influenced my world view, of course. But, some of you younger people never even had to form a world view. Your world views have been spoon fed to you by the likes of CNN and all the rest of main stream media.
Hearing you kids harping on Fox News is similar to - ohhhh - maybe being accused of forming a world view based on Uber press releases. It's just too damned silly to take seriously. The common refrain of "OK, Boomer" makes more sense than all the silly shit about Fox.
Now, would you please get off the lawn?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @08:27PM (1 child)
The overly ego-inflated youngsters don't read Fox news at all. If they did for 4 minutes, they'd realize all the shit they spout about Fox is, well, shit. They're suckling on the teets of liberal news media that tells them lies about Fox. Wanna get the most downmods the fastest? Say anything negative about their precious source of energy, strength, and hope: liberal news media.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @09:05PM
^ insanity
*pads the room*
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday November 11 2020, @08:45PM
Interesting. Oxycontin is only 24 years old too.
Coincidence? I think not!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @08:55PM
Amazing when that happens, idn't it? Espeically to one so dense as Runaway.
I thought that was the premise we were starting from, it having been proven time and time again on this site.
OK, Boomer!
*if all the things he's lost, Runaway misses his mind the most. Rupert Murdock took it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @08:30PM (7 children)
You go Azuma!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 11 2020, @10:13PM (6 children)
That wasn't me and you can ask the admin team for the hashes of that comment and this one to prove it.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @01:01AM (4 children)
Perhaps you just post from behind a proxy to cover your tracks. It sure wouldn't be the first time you weren't honest about stuff.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @05:56AM (2 children)
Twas me you paranoid stalker. Azuma does a better job of spell checking her posts.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:47AM (1 child)
Seemed like the misspelling was intentional in her style of mockery.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Friday November 13 2020, @08:43AM
No, that is mine. But it wasn't me, either. Could it be, that there is a Soylentil consensus, that it is time for Runaway, to take a break?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:22AM
I don't need to resort to that kind of underhanded bullshit. My posts and opinions can stand on their own, without obfuscation or the need for astroturfing or sockpuppets. Which is more than people like you can say. I know, in a world as completely crooked and twisted and utterly helical as this one, seeing a straight shooter like me is unsettling. What you see is what you get though.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:23AM
Oh no! Azuma 3.0 now? Still in training of course.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:50AM
For Runaway, it was just a Gateway. A Gateway to the GatewayPundit. And James
O'ReillyO'Keefe of Project Mendacity [nytimes.com].(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @09:44PM (10 children)
Great post! Your comments are always spot on!
The left applies the label of 'conspiracy theory' to any uncomfortable truth they wish to censor. I'll provide a dose of truth in this post, but I'm sure I'll just end up at -1, anyway.
America is under attack. Niggers, kikes, wetbacks, towelheads, chinks, japs, dune coons, pakis, curry munchers, gooks, injuns, and all other darkies hate America. They are actively attempting to subvert democracy and destroy the civilized society we have built. I hate all darkies, but only because they hate all of us and our great nation. My hate is strong and I'm damned proud of it. In fact, my hate is getting stronger as I talk to you people. However, I'm not racist and there's nothing racist about my post. The left will try to discredit me by accusing me of being racist and of spreading conspiracy theories. They don't want you to know the truth so they use labels like 'racist' and 'conspiracy theory' to censor those truths.
At least there's hope for America. Joe Biden is on our side and I'm proud to have voted for him. Donald Trump has proved incredibly useless at protecting America from darkies. The courts have repeatedly overturned his travel bans, attempts to build the wall, and detention of the wetback terrorists constantly streaming across the southern border. In 2016, everyone laughed at me when I voted for Hillary Clinton and noted that she would have far more effectively controlled the threat posed by darkies than anything Trump has ever done. That's the same reason I voted for Biden.
I know the left will attack me and claim that Kamala Harris proves that this is a conspiracy theory. They couldn't be more wrong. This is a genius move for Biden. He appointed a nigger and curry muncher to be vice president, a position that has no real power. Darkies are stupid and will believe that Biden is on their side while he will actually crack down on them and the crime and disease they bring into our communities.
Just as you said, the left labels the truth as a 'conspiracy theory' to cover it up and silence everyone who disagrees with them. Great post!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @10:01PM (4 children)
Not krauts, haggis eaters, or leprechauns? Or do those fall under other?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @04:42AM (3 children)
I think you can separate them on the basis of cuisine. The groups the GP mentioned all have interesting and very tasty food, the best yours ever came up with was haggis, sauerkraut, and irish stew.
(although Guinness redeems the leprechauns slightly.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @06:34AM (2 children)
How about the wops then?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:14AM (1 child)
I don't think anybody mentioned them, but they have excellent food also. Some nice wines too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:55AM
and women, and cars, and architecture and statues and frescoes and art and glass blowing and Colosseums and popes and canals and volcanos and volcanic ash buried towns and boat building and mafia, but not that, there's no such thing, but a big boot kicking an island, and aqueducts and catacombs and amphora and butt pinching and catcalls and singers and music and ...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 11 2020, @10:08PM (1 child)
Dude, you're pretty far out in the field there. I don't even know which field you're in. Taking your post at face value - why do you hate all those people you name? It's mostly rich white bastards who are fucking America up, not your assorted non-white groups.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Subsentient on Thursday November 12 2020, @09:19AM
Bravo. I wish more of the far-right people realized that. Eat the rich.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @11:40PM
Why do you hate America?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @02:34AM
That's a pretty close example to the mind twists in the QAnon circles. Except possible for using Biden and bashing Trump.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:57AM
The word you seek is "parasites".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @03:06AM (2 children)
As a conspiracy theorist/internet folklorist, I think those qualify as conspiracy theories. There are also the conspiracy theories the Democratic Party likes to advance about "rape culture" and the lack of menstrual programmers.
Don't get me wrong, I just wish that the Democratic Party would stop making your job so easy, is all.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:24AM (1 child)
Kurenai, please explain something to me: you are trying to get a woman's body. You want to be a woman. Yet, you drip misogynistic venom like this on a daily basis. Do you really not see the fundamental inconsistency there? Why are you trying to become what you seem to hate?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Funny) by FatPhil on Thursday November 12 2020, @11:15AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @09:11PM (6 children)
Well, not exactly as planned, they hoped the election would be a lot closer to give their lawsuits merit, but now we have a dangerously unhinged person as acting secretary of defense.
If we're very lucky they will only be able to cause a bit of a ruckus, but given Pompeo's statements it seems clear they plan on subverting the election.
#TotallyNotFascist
#Sarcasm
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 11 2020, @09:52PM (5 children)
#NotMyDictator
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @12:19AM (4 children)
#NotMyTreason
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @04:51AM (3 children)
#NotMyTraitorousDictator
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @06:39AM (2 children)
#NoAmericanDictator
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:16AM (1 child)
#TouchMe
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:53AM
#TouchMeToo, but not right now, and not like that. Pervert. Now we return to our regularly scheduled attempted Republican Coup d' etat.
(Score: 2) by Subsentient on Thursday November 12 2020, @09:16AM (7 children)
Reading the comments here are... well... painful. A lot of the statements just lack a total sense of awareness or sense of irony. I'm not gonna name names, but the actual views some of you hold, the way you look at the world.... it's so distorted and detached from reality, it genuinely causes a wave of sadness to wash over me.
God, it's so depressing. This isn't going to end well, for anybody.
I might break my vow to never return to 4chan, just to go on /pol/ and spread an even more outlandish theory to discredit QAnon. Perhaps the only thing that can defeat bullshit, is even more feculent bullshit.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:16AM
I am also saddened by how easy it is to divert the world from the truth.
all these people believing that Trump is fighting the pedophiles.
this is what happens when you allow lizard people to spray chemtrails over everyone.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:27AM (5 children)
I will name names. In this thread, Mr. Hallow is the worst offender, followed by Runaway and trailed a distant third by Uzzard, who at this point is like Eth and can't tell reality from his own "trolling" any longer. Why not name names? Not saying name and shame, since "shame" presupposes these skinwalkers are capable of social interaction, but why not call it out?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Subsentient on Thursday November 12 2020, @12:01PM (1 child)
Because I don't want to make a bunch of enemies all at once :^P
Arguing with deluded people almost never works. I've tried, oh god I've tried. It's futile. They usually get angry and decide you're the one in the wrong immediately after, even if you were only trying to help.
I know that from personal experience arguing with people with things ranging from schizophrenia to dementia, and personal experience with OCD.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 12 2020, @10:03PM
What are they going to do to you exactly? Bitch and moan and whine that mean nasty ol' Subsentient is calling them out on their bullshit?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Touché) by khallow on Thursday November 12 2020, @01:36PM (2 children)
Once again, details please. I'll note yet again that we have an opinion paper based on two flimsy polls and David Icke quotes being treated by some people as truth. A narrative isn't truth automatically just because it's a cool story, bro.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2020, @08:47AM (1 child)
Shut up, khallow. You know that thing we talked about? And you wanted me to remind you when you were doing it again? You're doing it again.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday November 13 2020, @02:29PM
Nope. I don't know what you're talking about. You're AC, remember?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday November 13 2020, @12:55AM (2 children)
We're only in it for the money
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday November 13 2020, @08:50AM (1 child)
I had money. But you know, the money I had, is now worth more as antiques than it was as money. Funny how these things work out. And even moreso, thieves sometimes melt down ancient coins for the metal value, which is like 1/10 of the value of the original coins, less if they are silver or electrum. So, really, it is not about the money. Money comes and goes, but wisdom and knowledge remain.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday November 13 2020, @02:42PM
They do that to make it harder to trace. They still make a profit, or they wouldn't go through the trouble.
Smoke and mirrors. Man's advantage is his opposable thumb.
"Reality" is a game of *play along to get along* Otherwise, eyewitness testimony would be 100% reliable, and the "law" would not be subject to interpretation.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..