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posted by martyb on Monday November 16 2020, @08:47PM   Printer-friendly
from the up-20%-is-good,-right? dept.

U.S. Hits 11 Million Coronavirus Cases, Adding 1 Million In A Week:

U.S. Hits 11 Million Coronavirus Cases, Adding 1 Million In A Week

More than 11 million confirmed coronavirus cases have been recorded in the United States, according to a COVID-19 tracker by Johns Hopkins University. The country reported 166,555 new cases on Sunday, with 1,266 new deaths.

The staggering milestone was reached only six days after the U.S. hit 10 million cases. Positive test rates and hospitalization rates are on the rise across the country, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[...] Hospitalizations continue to climb. More than 69,000 people were hospitalized as of Sunday, more than ever before.

The pandemic also continues to disproportionately affect Black and brown communities in the U.S. According to data from the CDC as of Nov. 7, hospitalization rates for Hispanic or Latino people are 4.2 times higher than that of white people. American Indian or Alaska Native people have been hospitalized at 4.1 times the rate of white people, with Black people being hospitalized at 3.9 times the rate of white people.

[...] The Trump administration has blocked the current coronavirus task force from communicating with President-elect Biden's team.


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  • (Score: 1, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 16 2020, @09:31PM (12 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 16 2020, @09:31PM (#1077934) Journal

    Tests have skyrocketed.
    Cases have skyrocketed.
    Hospitalizations have gone up, then dipped, up again, then dipped, and are up again.
    Deaths went way up in April, nosedived in July, a lower peak about August, down again, and now rising.

    I see cause for concern. I don't see cause for panic. We knew all along that people were getting it, and recovering, without so much as the symptoms of a mild cold. The huge increase in testing is finding those people, and turning them into "cases". It's going to take a week or two, to see how those hospitalizations translate into deaths. When it does, need to examine the demographics - and we'll probably find mostly old people, and people with serious comorbitities.

    That all sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday November 16 2020, @09:56PM (10 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 16 2020, @09:56PM (#1077954) Journal

    Hospitalizations have gone up, then dipped, up again, then dipped, and are up again.
    Deaths went way up in April, nosedived in July, a lower peak about August, down again, and now rising.

    I see cause for concern. I don't see cause for panic.

    https://covidactnow.org/ [covidactnow.org] go there and sort the table by the "ICU Headroom used". Currently, Montana and Oklahoma just ran out of ICUes (about 2 days ago).

    Go check the "daily new deaths" on the corresponding entries for the states in https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ [worldometers.info]
    When you see them climbing, you reached the "cascading failures" mode and can panic at your leisure.

    Note: "cascading failures" can happen of a number of paths different from "no more ICU beds" - e.g. by nurses exhaustion [google.com]. This means you may potentially panic earlier.

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    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday November 17 2020, @01:38AM (6 children)

      by HiThere (866) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @01:38AM (#1078050) Journal

      True, but it's also true that the treatments *have* improved. (Also there's a time lag between when you catch it and you become contagious, and another between then and when you show symptoms that cause you to seek care.

      Also the "quarantine" is a joke. It isn't happening. Some people are isolating themselves, but that only happens after the "seek medical care" stage, and the "be contagious and spread it around" stage happens first. And even people who should know better aren't really quarantining themselves. Check how we used to handle quarantines for smallpox and yellow-fever, and them remember that symptoms showed up before you were contagious.

      If you want to see how a quarantine to contain COVID *should* be done, look at Vietnam, or China after they really admitted that they had a problem. Then realize that there's no way you could get people in the US to go along with something like that, except perhaps those in the military. People at most *think* they are afraid of COVID, they aren't really afraid, so even those who know better violate the rules. It it makes repeated swings through the country for a decade or so, then people may start to realize that it's dangerous.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @01:50AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @01:50AM (#1078055) Journal

        All you said is likely true, but the reality still offers enough reasons to... ummm... rationally panic.

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        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:44PM (1 child)

          by Freeman (732) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:44PM (#1078328) Journal

          "rationally panic" is an oxymoron. People who panic are acting irrationally. Their thought processes have stopped and they're in the fight or flight mode. Which is absolutely unhelpful.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:35PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:35PM (#1078498)

            "rationally panic" is an oxymoron

            So, you noted, eh? +1 pedantically observant

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:36AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:36AM (#1078130) Journal

        after they really admitted that they had a problem

        Keep in mind that caveat. At least with the US, when I saw more than 4 weeks of 20+% increases per day, I knew something was up.

      • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:09AM

        by legont (4179) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:09AM (#1078200)

        In France, I was told, it is rather tough. One has to fill in paperwork - on real paper or phone app - before leaving one's dwelling and the list of excuses is short while timing is limited.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:34PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:34PM (#1078297)

        Some people are isolating themselves, but that only happens after the "seek medical care" stage, and the "be contagious and spread it around" stage happens first.

        This is an urban legend and Chinese research (which is another term for the same).

        In observed reality, it is less than 20% chance to catch COVID even when living under the same roof with an infected person, and all "superspreader events" involved someone already symptomatic that did not stay at home.

        An efficient measure would be to order everyone with symptoms of respiratory illness to stay at home, and for government to pay for their sick leave. For many it is poverty, not stupidity, that makes them go forth and spread viruses. (And the statistics in TFA supports this theory.)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:00AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:00AM (#1078061)

      Yeah I'm gonna trust some sort of "heartbeat" from the stupid industry that routinely loses fetal heartbeat leading to emergency c-section because their equipment is total shit. Every little dudad in the fucking hospital room amkes 30 different noises in course of 1 hour.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:32AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:32AM (#1078193)

        That's why I turn them off when I walk past. They sleep better.

    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:27PM

      by edIII (791) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:27PM (#1078434)

      Your post reads like an excerpt from the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy :)

      You may begin to panic, now.....

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:28PM (#1078435)

    as if you can believe anything the media or the government scum say. get real.