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The Guardian has a story detailing the firing of Christopher Krebs, who served as the director of the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa)
President Trump made the announcement on Twitter on Tuesday, saying Krebs "has been terminated" and that his recent statement defending the security of the election was "highly inaccurate".
CISA last week released a statement refuting claims of widespread voter fraud. "The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history," the statement read. "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
Krebs, is a former Microsoft executive, and was appointed by President Trump after allegations of Russian interference with the 2016 election.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Subsentient on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:16PM (15 children)
We're not. Those allegations have already been thoroughly debunked by many sources, but unfortunately modern conservatives only listen to the handful of far-right networks that feed them the "alternative facts" that they want to hear.
If the allegations were credible, I'd be furious and worried about fraud too. But, they're not, at least not from anything I can find anywhere.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:21PM (8 children)
Hundreds of sworn affidavits alleging problems countered by government affidavits saying no problems exist. Nothing to see here trust us.
I have not seen democrats fighting the accuracy of the affidavits in the courts. I have seen a couple judges place more trust in the government's account.
That is not debunked. That's trusting the government officials promising nothing is wrong when people are saying the government is doing something wrong.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:38PM (6 children)
Saying something is wrong is one thing. Actually providing evidence is quite another. Courts insist on evidence. Otherwise I could just claim in court that you murdered someone. Where is my evidence? My claim is the evidence. Would you really be comfortable with being convicted of murder on such "evidence"?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:57PM (4 children)
I don't think you understand what you are saying. Witnesses are evidence used in every case. It sounds like you are looking for some masked bandit [nypost.com] caught red handed with fraudulent ballots manning the vote count machine on video with a badge name.
Let's put our thinking caps on. Without witnesses how do you prove election fraud? When observers and challengers are denied access to the count, how do you know what happened behind closed doors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @05:28PM
Except they were not.
It's about the law and evidence.
See here for actual information:
https://electionlawblog.org/ [electionlawblog.org]
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday November 19 2020, @06:52PM
Let's look at the quality of the complaints. How about the one where it was claimed that poll watchers were kept out where later the attorney for the plaintiff sheepishly admitted that a non-zero number of poll watchers were present for the counting...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @07:01PM (1 child)
Except I am not saying I witnessed anything. I am just claiming that you murdered someone. So, tell us: why did you murder that guy? I hope they give you the death penalty for it. It would serve you right.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @07:40PM
Is this about Glenn Beck, again? Some people were saying that . . .
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @07:35PM
You're logic-leaping over INVESTIGATION.
It doesn't go from suspicion to death penalty. You get evidence FROM an investigation, which fortunately some people will do based on reasonable suspicion.
(Score: 3, Funny) by sjames on Thursday November 19 2020, @06:48PM
If I produce an affidavit claiming that the moon really is made of green cheese and that the craters are actually the result of moon mice, will you take it at it's word?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:28PM (1 child)
You're clearly not attending Evangelical churches in small midwestern towns. Plenty of "credible sources," "good people" are so convinced of their "proof" that they're charismatically influencing their community members to believe right along with them.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2020, @02:03AM
Frankly, as a Christian I find this very disturbing and disheartening; unfortunately, I find it also very believable that this is going on. I thought we Christians were supposed to stand up for the truth as best we understood it. Instead, it looks like many Christians have completely given themselves over to tribalism and various half-baked conspiracy theories. We should be better than this. I am so ashamed.
(Score: 1, Troll) by unauthorized on Thursday November 19 2020, @07:59PM (3 children)
I distinctly remember the pro Democrat side on SN being quite adamant in their belief of the now thoughtfully debunked Russian hackers conspiracy theory. Something something throwing stones in a glass house.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @08:24PM (1 child)
More alt-facts! Russian hackers were already proven, and Mueller specifically said he was limited from investigating Trump directly and that Trumo was NOT exonerated. Then Barr releases a memo saying Trump was totally exonerated. You can go look these things up, so how many more lies are you willing to swallow?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @08:41PM
How many more lies are you willing to regurgitate?
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @09:45PM
Stop changing the subject. And changing history. It was never about *haxers* in the actual election process. It was about Russian interference in the elections and it fucking did work and is working. Americans are so fucking stupid, they believe the idiotic propaganda spewed by these foreign agents. Then again, Faux News and related did similar damage to American democracy. You actually may want to read things and get informed. (And read the entire wikipedia entry, not just my quote.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections [wikipedia.org]
And the only reason why Trump didn't end up colluding with Russia was because he's too fucking stupid to collude. He tried and failed. But considering how he handled everything else, that's not surprising. He's an embarrassment not just to America but the world.