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The Guardian has a story detailing the firing of Christopher Krebs, who served as the director of the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa)
President Trump made the announcement on Twitter on Tuesday, saying Krebs "has been terminated" and that his recent statement defending the security of the election was "highly inaccurate".
CISA last week released a statement refuting claims of widespread voter fraud. "The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history," the statement read. "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
Krebs, is a former Microsoft executive, and was appointed by President Trump after allegations of Russian interference with the 2016 election.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by slinches on Thursday November 19 2020, @07:00PM (3 children)
Exceptionally hard to prove unless you do complete audits of the voter registration lists before every election.
People who vote more than once don't use their own name the second time.
How would you know if it's credible or not? You would have to prove a negative (having not received a ballot) to have a strong case. Either that or the voter would have to make a formal complaint and the person committing the fraud would have to simultaneously make a really dumb mistake like signing the wrong name on the envelope. If any of these cases are provable, it would imply a large number of attempts were made successfully.
Do you know the rules for observers and what they are really allowed to see? In PA, that they are in the same room where the count is happening (regardless of whether they are close enough to see anything) is sufficient to satisfy the requirements per the state supreme court. Many other states have similar issues and even when the observers observe something, it isn't acted upon.
Of course not. We should put a stop to manipulation of voting districts, but that's not the only legal way to subvert an election. There was an openly stated objective by the Democratic party to get Green party candidates off the ballots in swing states. That appears to have had a significant influence in the outcomes there and shouldn't have been legal either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2020, @01:34AM
In my state of residence (New Mexico), voter registration lists are available at any time for a fee. Presumably you can "audit" as much as you like, any time you like.
I'm pretty sure that if I requested a ballot and did not get it, I would know in pretty short order. How many times has this actually happened?
Could you quantify "significant influence"? Do you know of any instance in which this was likely to have affected the outcome of the election?
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday November 20 2020, @02:04AM (1 child)
Financial processing software code monkeys don't really know what an audit is, do they? Complete audit is an oxymoron. An audit is a representative sampling of a much larger population, enough to find significant problems. 2 million registered voters in Orange County, CA? A proper audit sample of 2,000 should be enough to detect any significant fraud.
Apparently that depends on which candidate they believe in: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/29/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice-in-iowa/ [washingtonpost.com] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/us/politics/trump-people-vote-twice.html [nytimes.com] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/georgia-voter-fraud-jail-time-mail-ballot-trump-b420755.html [independent.co.uk]
Bullshit. My ballot goes missing, then turns up in the tracker as counted when I didn't get it? Channel 10 news here I come, and a squad of auditors checks the signature, postmark, delivery address, payment method used for the P.O. Box (if the fraudster is even that bright), security footage from the post office boxes, etc. And even if the perp gets away, that shit is all over the world news.
So with the Trump brigade in the room you're suggesting that the poll workers are pulling fake ballots out of their asses to stuff the boxes with? or what exactly?
So, dirty pool is only allowed on one side of the aisle? Openly stated and illegal are very different things, and the Green party candidates - and people who influenced the balloting process - may have decided that in this particular election their own interests were best served by retiring early, you know like the gaggle of Republitard Presidential hopefuls didn't in 2016?
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by slinches on Friday November 20 2020, @05:08AM
Who is this response targeted at? I'm not a coder at all really. I may have misused the term, but the idea was there that you need to completely purge the voter rolls of ineligible voters before the election to effectively catch voter fraud. Otherwise, their ballot goes into the pile with the rest and even if you later determine that fraud occurred, you can't take back that vote because you can't prove what the vote was. So, no a sample is not sufficient. The voter registration lists need to contain only legally eligible voters.
Nope, just another non-credible complaint. You must be another one of those Trump supporters trying to undermine confidence in the election. You'd probably even go so far as to file a provisional ballot in an attempt to vote twice.
How about just being more stringent/lenient on the signature checks based on zip code? You're fairly creative. I'm sure you could think of several other ways to influence the count that isn't easily visible from that distance if you thought about it for a minute.
Where did I say it was okay for either side?