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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 20 2020, @07:07PM (20 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 20 2020, @07:07PM (#1079915) Homepage Journal

    I just don't get it.

    The best frauds are those that are hardest to uncover, or to prove.

    It's going to take a long time for me to get over the rallies. Trump has thousands of supporters rallying, whether he is present or not. Biden can't hire even small crowds of 12, 18, or 24. But, he wins the election? Something smells . . .

    And, those five battleground states that all stopped counting simultaneously on election night, only to see Biden counts increase VERY SHARPLY immediately when recounting began. Yep, I smell fish!

    However, as I said in my original post, if the Rs weren't bright enough to prevent any of it, well, they lose. Let's wait until the Electoral College has it's say, THEN we can talk about a President Elect.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 20 2020, @07:13PM (1 child)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday November 20 2020, @07:13PM (#1079919) Journal

    Simpler hypothesis than a massive election conspiracy: Morons are more likely to gather in large groups while a deadly airborne virus is floating around.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @11:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @11:51PM (#1080276)

      I strongly believe there is a conspiracy of sorts going on. I'll tell you what I think is going on. Trump knows he lost the election. This cannot be plausibly questioned at this point. He knows that he's leaving the White House on January 20, even if the Secret Service has to drag him out of there like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

      These lawsuits and tweets are a distraction so you don't pay attention to the dangerous policies being enacted and moves being made in the final days of the Trump administration. If we're all talking about Trump lying about the election, we're not talking about the damaging economic, public health, foreign relations, and public health actions that this administration is making. This is the most corrupt administration in the history of the United States. Trump is the worst president in the history of the nation, worse than Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, and Warren Harding. George W. Bush was not a good president but he had enough respect for the office and the country to run a first rate transition at the end of his presidency and to defer to the incoming Obama administration about policy.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/21/us/politics/trump-biden-transition.html [nytimes.com]
      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/climate/trump-oil-drilling-alaska.html [nytimes.com]
      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/climate/michael-kuperberg-climate-assessment.html [nytimes.com]

      You can find many more such articles. But we're not talking about these things because Trump and his associates are working hard to distract us from the damage that they're really doing. Yes, we should be talking about Trump's efforts to sow doubts about the legitimacy of American elections. We just can't let the Trump administration get away with shady actions behind the scenes.

      Yes, I believe there's a conspiracy. But it's a conspiracy run by the incredibly corrupt Trump administration to distract the American people from their crooked and shady dealings before January 20.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2020, @07:16PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2020, @07:16PM (#1079922)

    The best frauds are those that are hardest to uncover, or to prove.

    And the very best, the VERY BEST frauds are the ones there is NO evidence of! The ones that are so good, that there is not the slightest bit of factual support for them, the ones that only exist in the addled heads of those who watch Sucker Carlson. In fact, the less evidence, the more true the conspiracy is. Runaway has gone full-QAnon. Can't say I didn't see it coming.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @05:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @05:49AM (#1080113)

      The matrix has him.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 22 2020, @05:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 22 2020, @05:01AM (#1080356)

      That ship sailed when he called for Civil War 2.0 to save his spawn's *cough* future *cough* from TeH DaRkIeS. That shit showed he's been over the edge for a while and he probably considered going to the border to help with that big threat from the caravan!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 01 2020, @12:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 01 2020, @12:06AM (#1082615)

      Sucker Carlson got attacked by his own supporters for reporting that he asked Sydney Powell to come on his program and discuss her fraud allegations and her evidence for them, and she repeatedly declined.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2020, @07:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2020, @07:48PM (#1079939)

    You put the outhouse too close to the house.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Magic Oddball on Friday November 20 2020, @07:54PM

    by Magic Oddball (3847) on Friday November 20 2020, @07:54PM (#1079942) Journal

    It's going to take a long time for me to get over the rallies. Trump has thousands of supporters rallying, whether he is present or not. Biden can't hire even small crowds of 12, 18, or 24. But, he wins the election? Something smells . . .

    Keep in mind the effects of their different approaches to the coronavirus... We're looking at one guy who exhorted his followers to rally together in large numbers in-person, and another guy who intentionally limits the size of his rallies while telling his followers to stay home to avoid spreading a virus; it doesn't seem logical to me to draw any conclusions about their popularity based on the size of the resulting crowds.

    And, those five battleground states that all stopped counting simultaneously on election night

    They actually didn't stop counting; one county had to pause briefly because a pipe burst, others stopped when they finished counting in-person votes but were still counting the incoming absentee ballots:

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/battleground-states-did-not-stop-counting-votes-el/ [politifact.com]

    only to see Biden counts increase VERY SHARPLY immediately when recounting began.

    Biden's votes would have increased at a faster pace when absentee/mail-in ballots were counted because a larger proportion of mail-in voters tend to be Democrat, and also because Trump had been actively telling his followers to vote-in person rather than mail.

    Let's wait until the Electoral College has it's say, THEN we can talk about a President Elect.

    That's going to be interesting; I assume that we'll see the same reaction from it as in 2016, where the electors simply stated that it was their duty to vote in accordance with their state's residents. Hopefully that won't happen; it wouldn't surprise me if we saw ANTIFA riots from Hell there if the electors decided to override the voters.

  • (Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 20 2020, @10:24PM (2 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday November 20 2020, @10:24PM (#1079995) Journal

    Let's wait until the Electoral College has it's say, THEN we can talk about a President Elect.

    You had no problem with calling a winner on November 9th last time around. [soylentnews.org]

    What's today's date?

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 20 2020, @11:31PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 20 2020, @11:31PM (#1080013) Homepage Journal

      And, four years ago, we DID wait for the electoral college. No one was trying to move Trump into the White House on Nov. 9th. We had to wait for the EC to make it official, then wait for inauguration day. Biden wants moneys from the GAO like RIGHT NOW already. He gets no moneys until it's official.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @12:00AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @12:00AM (#1080020)

        Just like every other president before him received, including Trump and Bush. Although do note that they got it earlier than our current distance from the election and that Bush got it even though there actually was a question as to who would ultimately win. They didn't have to wait until the counting was certified, recounts completed, SCOTUS ruled, the EC voted or was counted.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @12:15AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @12:15AM (#1080023)

    Runaway believes something with zero evidence and clear explanations for his fishy suspicions like the fact that mail in ballots were mostly from Ds and counted after the in oerson ballots. Oh no, VERY SHARP INCREASE due to Trumo's own bad advice for Rs to vote in person.

    Amazing how easily you accept conspiracies with zero evidence because of yer FEELZ while disbelieving Trump's crimes that have tons of evidence because liberals are so mean to the conman in chief. Go fuck yourself you jelly spined boomer.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 21 2020, @12:36AM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 21 2020, @12:36AM (#1080033) Homepage Journal

      Funny, the non-battleground states didn't swing like they did in the battleground states. Funny as all hell.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @08:51AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2020, @08:51AM (#1080139)

        What's really surprising about states that were narrowly won by Trump last time being won by Biden this time? Especially when you factor in record turnout, and the huge portion of the population that hates Trump and everything he stands for.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 22 2020, @09:10PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 22 2020, @09:10PM (#1080490)

          Think about this: Runaway repeatedly claimed that he didn't like Trump and that he would vote against him since he is the heir apparent anyway. Why is he so surprised that so many other people also did the same? There are a number of ways to go from there, but most of them don't paint him or conservatives in a good light.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 26 2020, @12:46AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 26 2020, @12:46AM (#1081413)

            He is either a liar or a shill. Probably liar via Occam's razor, but I wouldn't be too surprised given his amount of commentary that he is a paid shill who spends all day every day shitposting online for some think tank.

  • (Score: 2) by dry on Monday November 23 2020, @04:43AM

    by dry (223) on Monday November 23 2020, @04:43AM (#1080577) Journal

    What is it with rallies, rallying over a politician, or a reality TV star just seems so weird, though there are lots of stories of paid rallies, and I guess a Billionaire could arrange some pretty big rallies during a recession.
    Here in Canada, I can't ever remember any rallies for any politician, I mean we're talking about low life politicians, a necessary evil it seems. It also seems that many people don't vote for someone but rather against someone and it is really easy to believe a lot of people would vote against someone who is likely to go down in the history books as the worst President ever. How many Americans have died on his watch? Has he shown any signs of caring?
    As for fraud, it does seem the best explanation for Trump getting so many votes, especially with him telling his followers to vote twice and it is believable that the Republicans running the elections in these swing States don't want to go, "Yes, there was fraud, all these double Trump votes"

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 26 2020, @12:54PM (2 children)

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday November 26 2020, @12:54PM (#1081490) Journal

    The best frauds are those that are hardest to uncover, or to prove.

    That's like saying the best lie is the truth.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 26 2020, @03:10PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 26 2020, @03:10PM (#1081507) Homepage Journal

      No, it is nothing the same. The best lies are those that are repeated again and again, ever more loudly, until people start to believe them.

      The best frauds are never uncovered, period. The best frauds are missed by auditors, and never questioned.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 27 2020, @08:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 27 2020, @08:59AM (#1081663)

        So we have now transitioned from "There must be fraud here because there is so much evidence of fraud," to "there must be fraud here because there is no evidence." Maybe you should take some introspection on why all the facts you see, even the ones that contradict the other ones, confirm your beliefs. Somewhat apropos, it might have something to do with having repeatedly heard how the election was a fraud.