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Armed police raid home of Florida scientist fired over Covid-19 data
Rebekah Jones, the Florida data scientist embroiled in a dispute with the state's Republican governor over the handling of coronavirus figures, had her home raided on Monday by armed police who confiscated her computers.
In a stream of posts on Twitter, Jones posted a video of the raid that showed state police carrying handguns escorting her out of her Tallahassee home. She can be heard saying: "He just pointed a gun at my children," with her husband and two children apparently upstairs at the time.
Jones claimed in her tweets that the raid was the work of Ron DeSantis, the governor with whom she has clashed repeatedly since she was fired by the state's department of health in May in a row over Covid-19 data. She compared the incident to sending "the gestapo", adding: "This is what happens to scientists who do their job honestly. This is what happens to people who speak truth to power."
The Florida department of law enforcement confirmed they had entered Jones's house on a search warrant. But in a statement the department said the action was related to a recent computer hack of the health department website, in which emergency response coordinators were sent an unauthorised message.
Also at CNN, The Verge, and The Hill.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @05:03AM (17 children)
Yup, lets lump them all together, even if some of them completely agree with all policies and measures to try to limit COVID-19, regardless of politics. Same goes for environment. There are many many on the right who strongly support, and proactively practice and promote environmental conservation, including buying electric cars, installing solar panels, improving insulation, reusing and recycling properly, and general careful conservation of resources. But it doesn't matter- if you can sniff the slightest hint of rightyness, slam them hard.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @05:30AM (11 children)
My objection is his denial of the truth. Based on what he wrote, it's a reasonable influence that he's on the right.
Generally speaking, the right says they favor individual responsibility instead of government regulation. If we are to rely on individual responsibility, people must have accurate information upon which to make their decisions. Misinformation and denial of facts actively impede this. For example, if we want people to voluntarily embrace environmental solutions without government regulation, people need to accept the underlying facts about the environment. My objection is not inherently that someone is on the right but the prevalence of misinformation that is promoted by the loudest voices on the right.
If you want individual responsibility to solve our problems instead of government regulations, that requires individuals to both be aware of and accept the facts. Misinformation actively undermines the utility of individual responsibility as a solution.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @06:03AM (7 children)
Wow, awesome post! Too late / tired for a good reply, but thank you, seriously.
One comment, and you've touched on it: you lefties are like a bunch of mousetraps ready to spring on the righties. There are some good righties you know. Stereotyping all of them and bashing them all isn't the best way to win some to your side. Human nature is to defend against attacks, then herd with others.
I'm an independent, but I'll identify with any group on the left who behave with civility, such as you've displayed. It's that whole thing of sniffing out, labeling, and attacking righties / conservatives that I find to be the beginning of a very annoying and troubling core divisive force today. It 100% reminds me of bullies and a gang beating up a geek. Also, it reminds me of movie scenes where gestapo are looking for Jews to round up, or Armenians, or any targeted group. It's a bit hypocritical. Why can't we all just get along?
It reminds me of Al Gore and his attempts at environmental conservation. He came across as very angry, pompous, condescending, etc. Again, people felt attacked and it's human nature to herd- power in numbers. I've always been an environmentalist because it's the right thing to do- take care of Earth, regardless of global warming.
Thank you again. Awesome post.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @06:50AM (5 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @07:03AM (4 children)
Yes, just one: who has all the guns?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @07:18AM
The problem with that assumption: who has all the propaganda?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @08:22AM (1 child)
Let's consider this. Liberals have more guns. Probably guns per capita. (Oh, sorry, deplorable, I used Latin! "Capita" in Latin means "head", so "per capita" means per head, or per person.) And this is the point. Paranoid Right-wing Nut-jobs probably have far more weapons and ammunition than they could ever use, whereas patriotic American liberals are not stocking up on weapons of death, because they do not have to. Superior marksmanship vastly overwhelms the Religious "spray and Pray" approach of the far right! Liberals are just better shots! So all these "2nd Amendment" types actually do not have a chance in hell. And even if they did, they would turn on each other, like assholes and fascists always do. Proud Boys? Which ones? Anti-Semitic, or Vanilla? Or Canadian?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 09 2020, @10:18PM
You should search Youtube with terms like "liberal gets a gun" and "liberal firearm training". More conservative people have their share of idiots, we can't deny that. But, watching a bunch of liberals training is like a 3-ring circus.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 09 2020, @10:15PM
Nobody has all the guns. It used to be mostly conservatives, but the past year has seen millions of people from all walks of life lining up to get a gun. Conservatives still probably outnumber liberals 3 to 1, but no one has a monopoly on guns.
And, I think that's what the Foundling Fathers had in mind. Or the Hobbit Fathers, or something like that.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @12:43AM
Ummm...yeah. Republicans have now shown themselves to be nothing more than easily propagandized sheeple. Awesome. Wow. So much for rugged individualism, I guess. I wish I could say I was surprised by this.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @06:06AM (2 children)
Which is why any and all links to inconvenient facts on this site are invariably modded Troll by every leftie. Also why said lefties are invariably the most ignorant in every scientific matter discussed.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @08:25AM (1 child)
I mod you troll for your ignorance. And for your ignorance of science. And, you smell bad. Troll. Your inconvenient "facts" are not facts, that is the disinformation, the lies fed to you that you regurgitate here. You are the ignorant one, and I dare you to prove otherwise!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @04:12AM
Dude. You're the one who eats roadkill, raw, on the side of the road.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @06:33AM (4 children)
Yep, all of them! If you claim to be a conservative, now is the time to renounce the Republican Party, to denounce the criminal Donald J. Trump, and save your soul. If you cannot do that, we are going to lump you in with the Proud Boys, Oaf Keeblers, 3% Marginal humans, and the Nazi Party. Not hard to understand. The offer is clear. And the ball is in your court. Whose side are you on, America, or the crazies?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @07:16AM (1 child)
Very divisive of you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @05:17PM
Hiw so?On one side all the neo-nazi white supremacist hate filled bigots, on the other fiscally and socially conservative rational humans. Choose, Nazis or America?
The use of Nazi is a little bit hyperbolic, but since the rightwing has a fair number of assholes sporting swatikas, and olenty of Proud Boys marched with peoe carring Nazi flags, the hyperbole isn't really stretched that far.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @07:21AM (1 child)
Don't forget: Liberals get the bullet too.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 09 2020, @08:27AM
Liberals have the bullet, too. You do know about the "boxes", that conservatives idiots are prone to go on about? You are in the last box, the "crazy box". Good luck getting yourself out of it!