I may be 72," Maria Arredondo from Michigan told us when we called her. "But I'm alive and breathing. My mind is working fine and I'm healthy."
Maria said she had voted for Joe Biden and was surprised to hear that her name had appeared on a list of supposedly dead voters in the state.
We spoke to other people in similar situations to that of Maria in Michigan and found similar stories.
To test the list, we picked 30 names at random. To this we added the oldest person on the list.
Of this list of 31 names, we managed to speak directly to 11 people (or to a family member, neighbour or care home worker) to confirm they were still alive.
For 17 others, there was no public record of their death, and we found clear evidence that they were alive after the alleged date of death on the list of 10,000. A clear pattern emerged - the wrong records had been joined together to create a false match.
Finally, we found that three people on the list were indeed dead. We examine these cases later.
When we looked for another centenarian, who according to the list had died in 1977, we found that she had still been alive when her postal ballot was returned in September. However, a neighbour told us the woman had died just a few weeks ago. We also found a matching obituary from October to confirm this.
Two other men on our list of 31 died some time ago, yet votes had been cast in their names - with the correct postcodes and years of birth - according to the voting database.
We found that for both men, there were sons with the same name currently registered at the same address as their deceased fathers.
In both cases, a ballot was sent in for the dead fathers.
Local election officials told us that one of the votes had been counted but there was no record of the son having voted.
In the other, it was the son who actually voted, but it had been recorded as the father's due to a clerical error.
US Election 2020: The 'dead voters' in Michigan who are still alive
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @07:51PM (17 children)
You mean conservatives are starting to act like liberals? Well, yes. Yes they are. Many (not all) of them are finally starting to see that being nice and playing by the rules just means the lawless freaks that make up the Democratic party will steamroll right over them.
I doubt that Trump's court cases will result in anything. Not because the lying cheating asshole Democrats didn't lie and cheat -- they did. But our courts, even the Trump appointees, know that if they don't rule for Democrats then Antifa will kill them. So the Bidenreich will begin -- he's literally Adolph, you know. So is Harris. Long live the PedoFuhrer!
As for the BBC -- Bigoted Bastards and Cunts -- I don't believe a single word they say. If they claim so and so is actually alive, it's almost a certainty that they've simply hired actors to claim that they're who they say they are.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DannyB on Thursday December 10 2020, @08:18PM (16 children)
Evidence? Or just more Trump hot air?
Evidence?
Gaslighting? (because after out gassing you must light your own gas because nobody will do it for you?)
So like Trump. A lot of hot air and rage and thunder. But no evidence.
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, you technically only had one piece.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @08:34PM (10 children)
Evidence? We're past that. No evidence was presented when people were called racist. No evidence was presented when people were called sexist. It was all about how somebody feels.
So no more evidence. Just insults, derision, contempt, and raw seething hatred. You know, what you all have been dishing out for years. Now thou shalt take it.
Don't bother to bitch because you're on the receiving end now, you child-sniffing commie shills. You taught us well. We learned it by watching you, Dad!, er, Mom!, er, Feathered Otherkin! We learned it by watching you!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday December 10 2020, @08:59PM (5 children)
I started calling Trump a racist when he told a black lady who was born here to go back where she came from.
Maybe stop saying racist things if you don't want to be called a racist?
(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 10 2020, @11:24PM (4 children)
And I started calling Joe a racist when he stated that poor kids were just as smart as white kids.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday December 10 2020, @11:30PM (3 children)
A statement that isn't racist taken at face value and also isn't racist with whatever substitution words you want us to put in his mouth.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 10 2020, @11:41PM (2 children)
Yeah, well, at face value, the statement IS racist. Joe thinks all white kids are really really smart.
And, don't forget that if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Arrogant hair sniffer.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 11 2020, @12:04AM
I started calling Runaway a racist when he was one. That is, forever.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:00PM
You forgot another claim that exists in such a statement: no white kid is poor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @09:03PM (2 children)
There is tons of evidence Trump is racist amd sexist. Only morons scream fake news and demand a photo of him lynching a black person before they'll believe he is racist.
I laugh at your insults, they are no different from the last 20 years, and that lovely 8 year stint by a black man which for SOME STRANGE REASON pulled a LOT of shit from the GOP. Whine harder, at least you understand that you're playing the victim card instead of the tough guy persona you desperately wanted everyone to believe.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday December 10 2020, @11:47PM (1 child)
So is grabbing women by the pussy because he's famous NOT sexism?
Or, is the tape of him admitting to it, plus the 21 witnesses of him doing it, multiple ongoing lawsuits and even a cum stained dress all fake news?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 11 2020, @12:25AM
I know it is easy to mix up the lines to the left that show hierarchy so I'll give you a minute to sort that out :-)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 13 2020, @06:50PM
Evidence? We use RussiaGate as the standard for "evidence" now. Hearsay works there, it can work anywhere. IOW, we don't need no steenking evidence! So, why should they?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday December 10 2020, @08:47PM (4 children)
There is no evidence of course. The very last of the bullshit lawsuits concedes this fact by claiming the fraud they are fighting is "undetectable."
The Trump team throws in the towel on proving voter fraud [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @09:19PM (2 children)
Any scientist should be cringing at that statement. Republicans have ensured that their allegations of fraud aren't falsifiable. That means they're also not a valid theory to explain the outcome of the election.
I'm just angry that the attorney general in my state (Doug Peterson) is wasting time and probably taxpayer money on this nonsense. Surely there are much better things that he should be doing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2020, @10:11PM
If he's wasting time, he's wasting taxpayer money.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 13 2020, @08:24PM
If they are not going to cringe at "the science is settled", then they won't cringe at "undetectable fraud" either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 11 2020, @03:34AM
You also have to appreciate the irony of Texas suing because other states non-legislatively changed election procedures when they themselves did the same.