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As has been noted, much of the world has declared war on right, Republican, or conservative viewpoints. We've followed GAB's evolution off and on, here on SN. It would appear that, having overcome multiple obstacles in the past, GAB is under attack from a new angle.
This is the email from GAB:
At 8:38pm on Wednesday December 9th Gab received an email from Walden Macht & Haran LLP notifying us of a Gab account, @EnemiesOfThePeople, that was in breach of our Terms of Service.
The Gab account was created just a few days ago and featured the personal addresses, photos, and more of election and government officials, which is against our terms of service. The account also made direct threats of violence towards these individuals, which is against the law as well as our terms of service.
This type of content has no place on Gab and we have a longstanding history of zero tolerance for illegal behavior. At Gab we believe that free speech and open discussion are the best ways to solve problems and disagreements, not violence.
Within minutes of receiving the email alerting us to the existence of this account we took immediate action by backing up the account information for law enforcement and then terminating the account from our service.
We took it one step further by alerting the Gab community to this behavior and noted that our community members should report this type of illegal activity to our moderation team immediately if they come across it.
At 9:34pm, less than an hour after being alerted to the existence of this account, our attorney replied to Walden Macht & Haran LLP to let them know that we took immediate action to terminate the account.
At 3:49pm Thursday afternoon Reuters published an article covering this story and neglected to reach out to Gab for comment before publication. In the story Reuters falsely claimed that the account remained active on Gab even though it had been suspended within minutes of it being brought to our attention the night before.
We have since sent the following retraction request to the editor of Reuters as well as the three “journalists” on the story. We believe it’s important to transparently lay out the order of events here to highlight how “journalists” recklessly print whatever they want without fact checking or asking the subject of a story for comment on the matter at hand.
Click here to read our full email exchange with Reuters.
Please also share it so other people can learn how the legacy media vipers operate.
Reuter's article on the "enemies of the people" "enemies of the nation" and associated accounts.
https://news.gab.com/2020/12/10/gabs-statement-on-the-website-targeting-u-s-election-officials/
That link reiterates most of the contents of the email I received, along with a chain of emails with Reuters.
https://gab.com/a/posts/105353449973018161
An appeal from Torba for GAB members to be on the lookout for other accounts that violate the law, and violate TOS.
https://gab.com/enemiesofthenation
It appears that the account "enemiesofthenation" still exists on the servers, but the content is obscured. I have little idea what that means for legal purposes.
Having missed the opportunity to view the content published by "enemies of the people", I can't make a judgement on how bad it is. Obviously, it was bad enough that Torba felt he was obligated to take it down.
Waiting to see who, besides Reuters, goes on the attack over this incident.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 11 2020, @10:54PM (20 children)
Nazis upset that people don't like them, news at 11
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:00AM (18 children)
I can't imagine why people would be angry when Republicans are waging baseless legal battles to make sure the people's votes don't count. I can't imagine at all why that would make people mad. Hmm...
Seriously, history books will not remember current Republicans favorably. Historians will write about them the way we right about state legislators who voted in 1861 to secede from the United States because of slavery. As of now, 19 attorneys general and over 100 House Republicans have betrayed their country by requesting the Supreme Court reverse a free and fair election. Their loyalty is to Donald Trump, not to the Constitution or to the United States.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:09AM (17 children)
LOL, Biden has not served a single day in office yet, but you're writing the history books already?
Check back in 25 years, when the old timers are judging Biden somewhere on the scale of 0 to 100 for best to worst president.
To be fair, Clinton will still rank pretty high, because he had a helluva good economy. Bush will rank pretty low because 9/11 happened on his watch, and he started unnecessary wars. Obama will still be ranked highly by progressives, mostly because he is black. Trump will be ranked somewhere near the middle, because he did have a good economy, until the pandemic hit. Biden - probably the shortest serving president in history. Harris, judged poorly after implementing dozens of policies that infringed on civil rights, AND her economy sucked ass.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:50AM (15 children)
Trump ranked in the middle? Really? That might be the case if the only presidents he's compared against are Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, and Warren Harding. And even that's being generous. The comparison to 1861 is valid given Republicans' rejection of the rule of law and now the threat of secession [thehill.com] because SCOTUS ruled against Texas' lawsuit to overturn the election in four other states.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:25AM (14 children)
Trump did nothing great while in office, IMO. Nor did he do anything terrible, IMO. Despite all the stupid "resistance" shit that started even before he was sworn in, Trump has not been a "bad" president.
For all his cronyism, he didn't get laws passed to enrich the insurance industry at the expense of taxpayers, like Obama did.
Oh, but wait - there are STILL people who believe that Obamacare was somehow as good as single payer? What chumps!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:42AM (3 children)
Trump hasn't done anything terrible? Really?
You might have been able to make that argument 18 months ago and get away with it. But we have nearly 300,000 Americans dead from COVID-19 while Trump undermines efforts to bring the disease under control. Trump's attempts to undermine democracy and overturn the election are also terrible. And Trump got impeached for good reason, because he abused his power and attempted to bribe Ukraine's president to smear Biden.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:56AM (1 child)
We have gone from a Quarter Million, to almost a Third of a million? And this is not a national emergency? I recommend we break out the tax on the rich anti-khallow emergency national policy! We allowed the 1% to accumulate wealth for just such an extingency. Time to bleed them dry, to redistibute the wealth, to do the khallow UBI, but with no stupid Republican restrictions on non-rich people (black, or brown, or mulatto) getting any of it. Eat the Rich. It is about time.
(Score: 1, Touché) by khallow on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:08PM
You false flagging, bro? This is a parody of concern about covid.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 12 2020, @05:27AM
Uh-huh. A bunch of people SAY THAT Trump undermines their efforts to get the pandemic under control. I wonder how many of those same people have helped to manipulate the numbers, to make the pandemic seem worse than it is.
Once again, CDC's official numbers say that the US total fatalities this year, from all causes, are only 11% higher than expected fatalities. It's not like total fatalities are 30, or 50, or 75% higher than total fatalities in any previous year. The total of dead Americans is running 11% higher than would be expected of all causes.
Many of us have been calling bullshit on the whole COVID-19 reporting all along. The CDC helps to get all those numbers into perspective.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:02PM (9 children)
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 12 2020, @01:31PM (6 children)
So, Trump wrote the budget too? What DID Congress do for four years?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 12 2020, @10:06PM
You should be asking what did Trump do for four years?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 13 2020, @01:21AM (4 children)
Maybe you should read the Constitution again. If the president didn't like it, he could have vetoed it.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 13 2020, @04:01AM (3 children)
Oh, isn't that a lame excuse! Every congress since the first has had that same possibility hanging over their heads. Every_single_one.
Guess what? If the prez vetoes, congress can just go over his head with a supermajority. But, you knew that, right? Or, they can resubmit with a few changes. Or, they can politic. Bottom line, congress controls the purse. Always has, and probably always will until the US is no more.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 14 2020, @03:21AM (2 children)
Or they can turn in a budget more in line with the president's priorities. Supermajorities aren't that common.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @07:11AM (1 child)
I covered that with
Give and take, and if one side is being too much of an asshole they suffer in the polls.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 14 2020, @02:55PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @07:52PM (1 child)
Yeah, he should have struck into CHOP like a hammer, and prohibited governors from interfering with interstate commerce. He was trying to be considerate because of the election, but he left millions of people in despair at the mercy of their governors. He retreated from the front line a month after the lockdowns started, and only came back when the rioting erupted.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 12 2020, @10:09PM
Who here believes that? Certainly not I.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @07:39PM
See? You are a racist, Runaway. Even saying that is racist.
But you got the scale completely wrong. Bush is an international war criminal, which unfortunately means the US is. Trump is not anywhere near the middle, he is more like a -43.7. Attempting to remain in office, against the wishes of the people? Treason? Coup? Racism? No wonder Runaway voted for Trump.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:51AM
Oh, modded Troll? Perhaps news at 12? Because no one likes Nazis, even their own mothers!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 11 2020, @11:45PM (12 children)
Reuters has no way to verify whether it's possible for Gab accounts to post content or for their owners to login to those accounts. If a page associated with the terminated account remains active on Gab's server, it's easy to see why Reuters would believe the account is still active.
There are at least three main reasons why Republicans are getting so much backlash:
1) A large portion of the arguments made for supposedly conservative positions are based on misinformation that goes well beyond the minor error in Reuters' article. This includes anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, claiming COVID isn't that serious, saying AGW is a hoax, alleging significant election fraud, and so many other things. The misinformation frequently supports racism, such as false statements that immigrants are a threat to security or that Black Lives Matter is a terrorist or a communist organization. Simply put, the difference between the right and left, generally speaking, is not a good faith disagreement on policy.
2) Trump's legal challenges have no merit in fact or law. Despite this, it should be noted that Trump and his lawyers are trying to disenfranchise voters in several states and overturn the will of the people in a legitimate, free, and fair election. It should be no surprise that an assault on democratic processes is received unfavorably.
3) There are many people in power who know better, who know that Trump's legal challenges and Twitter screeds are without merit, but support Trump's efforts anyway. This includes the 19 state attorneys general and the 100+ Republicans in Congress who have gone on record to support the baseless lawsuit that is currently before the Supreme Court. All of these people know better, yet they go beyond even passively enabling Trump and are taking action to support his actions.
Actual conservatives are being driven away from the Republican party because of all of the misinformation and the extreme positions being supported by the party. Reagan-era conservatives do not fit within today's Republican party. This is not a backlash against limited government, individual responsibility, and conservative positions. It is a backlash against misinformation, extremist positions, and efforts to undermine democracy. It's incredibly hypocritical to complain about a minor issue with a Reuters article while the far right is spreading far more egregious misinformation on a much larger scale.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:07AM (2 children)
Why the hell has this comment been moderated "Troll"? What's the matter, little runaway? Don't like people messing with your narrative again?
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:23AM (1 child)
It gets another +1 from me for that exact reason.
Fox News and company did to Runaway what his generation was convinced Mortal Kombat would do to my generation. Only worse. We are watching a grown-ass retirement-age man go completely toucan-shagging Froot-Loops insane.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:57AM
#MeToo! Poor Conservative snowflakes, melting in a Gab, after advocating violence over Parle?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @01:10AM
If the mainstream media was quoting your post it would read:
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @01:57AM (3 children)
If the shoe were on the other foot, you'd feel differently. You have no moral compass.
We're supposed to believe that elections were stolen in 2000, 2004, and 2016. It was all totally legitimate in 2008, 2012, and 2020. In those years, the legal challenges have no merit in fact or law.
Hey, I think I see a pattern.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:34AM (2 children)
The 2000 election was decided by a single state, Florida, with a margin of a few hundred votes. The delay in deciding the outcome was due to hand recounts on the basis of known issues with the punch card system and verifying the extremely narrow margin. The recount was brought to a halt by a somewhat controversial decision from the Supreme Court, unlike the unanimous rejections of Trump's lawsuits. Bush won the electoral vote but not the popular vote. There were no allegations of massive fraud and the result hinged on a single state with a far closer margin than any state that Trump is contesting. If there is an objection to the fairness of this election, it is only in the halting of the recount in Florida.
There were concerns about possible irregularities in the election but Kerry didn't contest this election. Arguing that this is somehow equivalent to 2020 is incredibly dishonest. As for 2016, Trump lost the popular vote. There were allegations that his campaign colluded with Russia. However, there were no attempts to overturn the outcome of the election. Trump was investigated, yes, but Mueller's investigation was overseen by Trump's justice department. The impeachment happened because of Trump's actions after becoming president and Republicans ran a sham trial and refused to call even a single witness.
At no point were there efforts to invalidate hundreds of thousands of votes. At no point were absurd conspiracy theories concocted without a shred of evidence to support them. If you're arguing there's some kind of equivalency between issues between those elections and 2020, you're a liar. You knew better but you posted that lie anyway. The level of misinformation, absurd conspiracy theories, and malicious lawsuits is unprecedented in the United States.
It's not surprising that 126 House Republicans betrayed their country by placing their loyalty to Trump ahead of their oath to the Constitution. Most of the Republicans in Congress do not care about the rule of law. If Republicans did care about the rule of law, they would have taken the impeachment of Trump seriously. Trump was impeached for a quid pro quo, effectively attempting to bribe Ukraine's president to smear Joe Biden. There was considerable evidence against Trump, unlike the baseless conspiracy theories in the election lawsuits, but Republicans refused to hear it and rejected having witnesses at the Senate trial.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @06:09AM (1 child)
Not quite true on the 2000 election. The initial recounts were fine, and followed, by black-letter law. The margin was verified, give or take the usual statistical blips in counting.
What was stopped was a newly invented recount, that a friendly judge was persuaded to order, that was in contravention of the law.
The supremes just said that a judge couldn't rewrite election law, so stop wasting time breaking the law.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @09:09AM
Sort of. The basis for recounting undervotes and overvotes was valid. If the voter's intent can be clearly determined, Florida law indicated the votes should count even if the scanning machines did not count them. The primary issue with the recounts was not that they were occurring but that they were only conducted in a few counties instead of statewide. The Supreme Court ruled that the different standards for counting votes between counties violated the equal protection clause. Analysis of the votes after the election suggests that a statewide recount following a uniform standard for overvotes and undervotes probably would have resulted in Gore winning by under 1,000 votes.
I should also point out that Bush gained an estimated 486 votes and Gore gained an estimated 194 votes from overseas absentee votes that were illegal for issues like arriving late or lacking a signature. This benefited Bush but was done on the basis of votes that the Trump campaign would fight to exclude. I don't have a problem with this, just noting that this benefited Republicans back in 2000.
Gore had a real path to victory by contesting the election. Trump does not. The 2000 election outcome depended on swinging one state, Florida. Overvotes and undervotes accounted for 3% of the ballots in Florida. Bush won Florida by 537 votes in the final tally, or roughly 0.01% of the vote. The Gore campaign argued that any of the 3% of uncounted votes that were valid under Florida law should be counted and could very plausibly tip the election in Gore's favor. The Bush campaign argued that it violated the equal protection clause to apply different standards for recounting votes from one county to the next, something that also seems intuitively unfair. Both campaigns had very valid arguments, which contrasts with the nonsense and conspiracy theories from the Trump campaign.
(Score: 2, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:18AM (2 children)
Simply asking is too obvious for you then? Watching to see if anything new is posted from the account couldn't possibly work? Yeah, there's no conceivable way they could find out if the account was active.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:44AM (1 child)
You know better than to lie like that. You're an admin of SoylentNews. You have full access to quietly change the password and email address for a user account, effectively banning them without deleting the account. You know full well that to an ordinary user, they would have no way of distinguishing whether the absence of posts from an account means the account has been disabled or the user simply has chosen not to log in. You knew better than to post that nonsense. Lying like you did is just shameful because you of all people know better.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:50AM
Which is why I'm fairly confident that I would have the knowledge to say "yes" authoritatively if anyone asked me if someone had been banned or not. I expect the Gab admins are at least competent enough to answer correctly best two out of three.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @07:28AM
https://fee.org/articles/is-black-lives-matter-marxist-no-and-yes/ [fee.org]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:11AM (34 children)
See subject.
You are white, male, culturally if not religiously Christian, and straight-acting enough to fool the other rubes around you. You are the furthest thing from a persecuted minority or tormented martyr for a noble cause it is possible to be. If you don't like the fact that people who don't fit the mold are starting to have civil rights, that is *your* problem, not ours.
No one is coming for your guns or to lock you up (unless you persist in your wild-eyed challenges to government officials to do so and keep posting that you're itching to kill Federal personnel...). No one's coming to disappear you in the middle of the night in an unmarked van. You're most likely going to live what remains of your natural lifespan in relative peace, until you have the inevitable apoplectic fit from working yourself into a daily two-minutes' hate lather over OANN or whatever you're watching now that Fox is "too liberal" for you (Jesus...!).
And you'll die the way you lived: unnoticed, unimportant, unrecognized, and unable to handle reality as it changes around you. And good riddance.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:57AM (12 children)
And deplatforming isn't oppression, it's the natural reaction of oppressed people to the hegemonic narrative of their oppressor. And redistribution isn't expropriation, it's the smoothest path to restitution for millennia of systematic exploitation by the rapacious colonial cultures. And physical resistance against the pillars of governing forces isn't rioting, it's the last option open to an anti-fascist collective of conscience against deliberate marginalisation by a new regime of genocidal racism. This also means that civil liberties should only defended for those on the political left, because those on the right shouldn't have them, don't deserve them, and only use them as a loophole to oppose those on the left.
In other news, anybody who actually believes all that tripe should definitely find some place to implement all those ideas where everybody else can watch.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:59AM
And you were so close! Now it is the re-education camp for you. Moron.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 12 2020, @01:10AM (10 children)
- "Cancel culture" is what whiny little bitches cry about when the Free Marketplace of Ideas decides it doesn't want what they're selling. Khrai sum moar.
- "Redistrubition" (assuming you mean taxes here?) is what keeps a society going. Isn't it odd how the Nordic societies and Canada do capitalism *better* and more self-sustainably than we do, despite so much "expropriation?" Might be something to think about...
- Let's see how quick you are to support the "pillars of governing forces" when you start disagreeing with them. Why is it the same kind of asshole who says stuff like this is the first to call for negating entire elections, secession of states, and outright civil war? Fucking hypocrites, all of you.
- Civil liberties are for everyone. They are not being taken from you, you pasty whining martyr-complexed basement-crawling CHUD. They're being expanded to cover people who aren't like you. This isn't zero-sum. Pull your head out. There is no "civil liberty" to shit on other people because you don't like their skin tone, sexual orientation, or cuisine.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @01:35AM (6 children)
... and there comes the crazy.
Methinks, the lady doth protest too much.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 12 2020, @02:25AM (5 children)
You very clearly do not "thinks" at all. You have a hell of a lot of feelings for being part of the "fuck your feelings" crowd though.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:04AM (4 children)
... she said, while crying into her gallon of Ben and Jerry's.
Seriously, doesn't the hypocrisy of the same people who pledge teary-eyed allegiance to the principle of civil liberties, then turn around and refuse the privilege to the right wing, bother you at all? Or are you so blinded to it by your hatred of your adversaries that the very idea of according them reasonable access to the public conversation seems like the high road?
Does it make you feel like a heroic nazi-puncher? Does it swell your bosom with pride, imagining that you're storming the beaches of Normandy? Parachuting into occupied Europe with a tommy-gun and a fighting knife? Are you, yes you, ready to liberate Auschwitz-on-the-Potomac?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:51AM (2 children)
The right's concern for civil liberties is nothing more than crocodile tears, especially as you demand to disenfranchise voters in several states because they didn't vote for your candidate of choice.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 12 2020, @05:35AM (1 child)
Actually, no.
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/060/607/769/original/d61f25ec5ca4422b.jpeg [gab.com]
There are no "blue states", there are only "blue cities". All of the fraud discussion has actually been centered on a very few voting districts, all of them within cities known to be controlled by Democrats.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @09:18AM
Shut the fuck up you goddamned ignorant hillbilly motherfucker of goats! Rural people are only Trump supporters because they are not properly educated. They could be, but they don't seem interested, much like George W. Bush, or Donald Jahosephat Trump! Not shut up, Runaway, you rural asshole of a hole in the ground that can't tell it self from an asshole!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @09:15AM
Well, I say, shoot them between the eyes. They deserve the right to face their fellow citizens, whom they threaten with violence, before we put them down like the rabid dogs they are. Reasonable access? For the Clinically insane? Shirley you jest! Shoot them down, and put them out of their misery. Trump won? Craziness like that only has one cure! Right wing has no privilege, and at the most is entitled to a coup de grace. Poor bastards! Trump won? My gawd your brains is busted!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @07:04AM (2 children)
The marketplace of ideas is not free. Deplatforming goes beyond social media websites, to web hosts, DDOS protection, payment processors and banks. If the imbalance continues, it will be redressed. The ideas you hate so much will thrive underground.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @09:22AM
But, they are just as stupid and backwards, and wrong, underground as they are anywhere. This is why we mock them! You may be alright for a while, hanging with your naked mole rat white supremacist companions, but as soon as you emerge into the light of day, you will be just as stupid and wrong as the day you went underground. White People Be too dumb to be supers! And Too stupid to recognize that they are too stupid to recognize how stupid they actually are! Like, Morans?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:40PM
You mean, things will go back to how they were before Schmuck a l'Orange gave you inbred fuckwits some idea that you had permission to be mortally stupid in public? :)
By all means, please, keep brewing these "ideas" underground (read: in your mom's basement). I will never understand why you supposedly superior specimens of humanity don't use that white-with-a-capital-W intellect of yours to make something of yourselves instead of spending all your time pissing and moaning.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:33AM (19 children)
Azuma is the replacement of the old Patriarchs. Judgemental bitch who pronounces condemnation, and beseeches some God or another to rain hellfire and brimstone on everyone she doesn't lie. But, she is justified because female, lesbian, millennial, and $otherreasons.
In short 'Zumi is "politically correct" so she gets away with her brand of hatred and hypocrisy.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @06:06AM
We've seen a lot of that.
Fashionable stuff? Red carpet. See: the (discredited, by actual historians) 1619 project, and its ... let's call it "friendly" reception in the mainstream media. Also see: critical race theory, all founded on a basic assumption that if you change the definitions of a bunch of words around, you can be angry with a racially defined group without it being racist (by your definition). Also see: the newly discovered coolness of all things Marx, despite being discredited in theory and practice for decades, internationally. "But this time it'll be done right, because the others were all just abusing Marx without following him, but we'll really mean it!" Also see: the treatment of rioters/vandals/arsonists/"peaceful protesters".
Saying the wrong things, even if only as part of a civil public debate? Pilloried. See: Abigail Shrier’s "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters", and the UCB professor advocating stealing it and burning it. Also see: Brett Weinstein, an actual lefty professor who wasn't lefty enough, and was hounded out (so much so that he and his wife, also a professor, got a fat payout because of the abuse). See also: Chris Rock (hardly a poster boy for white nationalism) saying: "I stopped playing colleges, and the reason is because they’re way too conservative…. Not in their political views — not like they’re voting Republican — but in their social views and their willingness not to offend anybody." (Interview with Frank Rich)
Of course, I'll be tasting that hellfire and brimstone for pointing out verifiable events (and just a tiny proportion) but I suppose at least I'll have excellent, venerable company in the sulphurous pits.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:36PM (17 children)
You forgot to log in again, Runaway :)
And once more, since you seem to be a bit hard of thinking: no angry God throws you into Hell. You do that. No merciful angel or savior pulls you out of Hell. You do that. You will spend exactly as long in exactly as horrible a Hell as you need to, not a second more or a second less. And the "hellfire and brimstone" is *light.* It's the bare naked truth about yourself with nowhere to hide and no more capacity to fool yourself. To someone like you, who lives and believes like you, that will be Hell.
Whatever sex or orientation or age I happen to be is irrelevant. Truth is truth no matter who says it and no matter when. It's perfectly capable of standing on its own without a bunch of identity politics behind it
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @02:45PM (4 children)
> Whatever sex or orientation or age I happen to be is irrelevant.
Then why do any of us know those things about you?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 13 2020, @12:34AM (3 children)
Because I also don't hide it :) I'm not afraid. I know I'll take abuse for it, on this forum full of angry basement-dwelling virgins and pissed-off incels and sociopathic rejects from the boneyard. And I do. Not. Care. Call it my way of shouting defiance into the internet if it makes you feel better. Certainly it unsettles people who aren't expecting my level of technical insight because I don't have a Y chromosome!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 13 2020, @02:42AM (2 children)
This is the internet.
Where men are men.
And women are men.
And little girls are FBI agents.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 13 2020, @03:05AM
Do you want a used pad in the mail or something?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 13 2020, @03:06AM
And the FBI agents are... well...
https://apnews.com/article/fbi-sexual-misconduct-investigation-a0d33e4770acef8ff5f4a48f0267202c [apnews.com]
(Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:37PM (11 children)
Abuse of admin privileges? If I posted the above as AC, then it was intended to be anonymous.
And, as always, we are all treated to Azuma Hazuki's own personal rationalization of why everyone she hates goes to hell, but the patriarchs from whom she borrowed most of her religion were all wrong. Isn't it wonderful that we have our very own leftist spewing venomous hatred all over the site? Well, hello there, Medusa!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @06:33PM
Speaking of hypocrisy wd've got the poster child obsessive commentator who shits all ovet his political opponents, pushes fake news, then cries about mean words. Keep it up, about time everyone left around here got reality sorted out. Seems Ari was right all along.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 13 2020, @12:37AM (7 children)
You have cause and effect backwards. I don't say people are going to their own little pocket Hells because I "hate" them: I'm in vehement, fundamental moral disagreement with them and a side effect of their beliefs and actions is *that* they will go to their own little DIY Hells. I have nothing to do with that.
If you don't want the worst noetic sunburn ever when you die, stop being a stinking skinwalker. It's not a difficult concept.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 13 2020, @04:06AM (6 children)
On and on you go with your own customized version of the afterlife. Keep flapping your gums, and you might even convince yourself that you've got it made in the shade in the next life.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 13 2020, @04:17AM (5 children)
Not that you have any knowledge of any of this, but these are not new ideas. If anything they're quite a bit older than Jesus, as prototypical forms of them arose in ancient Greece during the early Axial Age. Not that you know what that is either.
The purpose of existence is development, refinement, and an eventual merger with God or The Source. A soul that willfully disappears into its own mental event horizon stagnates, and may not be able to move on in the next world without outside assistance. Karma being what it is ("cause and effect" in Sanskrit basically), I may actually end up getting assigned to pull your fat out of the fire at some point in the future. At the rate you're going, you will *need* a holy diver, and no, I don't mean Dio...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 13 2020, @05:26AM (4 children)
On and on you go with your obsession.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 14 2020, @03:13AM (3 children)
You know how to get me to shut up? It's very simple:
STOP TAKING THE BAIT AND REPLYING TO MY EVERY POST.
There's something about the specific pathology that infects you and your kind that makes that impossible, though. You really, really, *really* hate the idea of not having the last word, especially against someone you explicitly categorize as your "inferior." Pathetic.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @07:14AM (2 children)
Pathologies?
I grew up with a large boatload of sisters and female cousins. Females think they have to have the last word. And, that's where you fail. I don't HAVE TO allow you the last word. I'm falling for the bait? Told you years ago, I can play your silly girl games just as well as you can. You don't win with me, ever.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 14 2020, @07:41AM (1 child)
Then why are you so mad all the time? You keep insisting otherwise, but your tone and word choice give the game away. Well, that, and the constant "wish a muthafuckah would"-style posts daring the Feds to come by so you can shoot them.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @08:05AM
Listen to you project. Here and on IRC, as soon as you make an entry, you sling the insults. You're the one who is mad.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 13 2020, @12:39AM (1 child)
Oh yes, and I didn't need to use any "admin privileges" to figure out that was you. You have a very distinctive writing style and no one else, to my knowledge, is capable of precisely imitating it. So that raises the question: why not log in for posts like that? They'd start at a higher score and more people would see them.
I can only surmise that you *know* how weak your position is and how little credibility you have left, so you have to post AC as a way of making it look like you have more support and allies than you actually do :D Sad! Loser! Low-energy!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 13 2020, @04:07AM
Because it amuses me, and it amuses Aristarchus, my mismatched dirty sock puppet.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by khallow on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:27PM
I see you're doing your daily descent into self-parody. Guess what a "white, male, culturally if not religiously Christian and straight-acting" Runaway is? A minority. I suppose he's being persecuted by your usual drek as well though, because it's invited, I wouldn't call him a martyr at present.
Yet. We'll see what happens. But your sort of dehumanizing above isn't unique or new.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:53AM (7 children)
Prepare to be gaslighted! Lied to! Bamboozled! No one is interested in what you are interested in, Runaway! Go back to your Nazi cosplay site, and please don't mention it here, least we all be caught up in the FBI Dragnet that you are well inside of!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 12 2020, @03:23AM (6 children)
It's "lest" not "least". And unless the FBI is producing a reboot of the old Jack Webb and Harry Morgan show, "dragnet" doesn't need capitalized. Also, you punctuate like Carrot Ironfoundersson.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday December 12 2020, @04:40AM (5 children)
Always appreciate grammatical critique from a Community College drop-out. Rather puts me in my place. But, then again, not a native speaker??
And the main point remains, if you draw up a list of people to kill, well, not free speech, you know? Unless they are Cherokee, or Sioux, am I wrong? TMB, you dishonor your ancestors in so many ways. But your standing up for the language of the Colonizers, for your language now, is less than reassuring.
Of course, lefties have a corresponding list. The only name on it, however, is Runaway1956. And they only suggest severe tickling, and anal penetration.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @05:54AM (1 child)
You should pay more attention to real current events. This woman wants to take revenge on almost everyone who supported Trump, and/or opposed Biden.
https://twitter.com/UncleGulag/status/1336531504869076993?fbclid=IwAR2DF6bvuMxkV7SVCqxsKjzfH9-Em1ggAwQE3J3CBoApz7D1u2TbdudKQQY [twitter.com]
So much for your empty headed prattling.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 12 2020, @08:04AM
We are coming for you, you addle headed conservative fuck? Your name and you property shall be forfeit! And, your nethers will be reared, and your rear nethered! Prepare yourself, we are coming.
(Score: 0, Touché) by khallow on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:30PM (1 child)
Who's easily holding his own against you, oh credentialed one. For someone who has claimed to have taught philosophy before, you remain remarkably inept at its application.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday December 12 2020, @12:41PM
Oh, khallow, you know knot of what you speak! School of Alexandria, at its heyday! Hasn't been a center of learning as good, since.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 12 2020, @01:43PM
Huh, I didn't figure they had any interest in saving him that much money on monthly expenses.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.