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Rumblings of a Debian Fork Amidst Anger Over systemd

posted by n1 on Sunday September 28 2014, @06:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the yet-another-systemd-story dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

Controversy is nothing new when it comes to systemd. Many people find this new Linux init system to be inherently flawed in most ways, yet it is still gaining traction with major distros like Arch Linux, openSUSE, Fedora, and soon both Ubuntu and Debian GNU/Linux. The adoption of systemd for Debian 8 "Jessie" has been particularly fraught with strife and animosity.

Some have described the systemd adoption process as having been a "coup", while others are vowing to stick with Debian 7 as long as possible before moving to another distro. Others are so upset by what they see as a complete betrayal of the Debian and open source communities that there is serious discussion about forking Debian. Regardless of one's stance toward systemd, it cannot be argued that it has become one of the most divisive and disruptive changes in the long history of the Debian project, threatening to destroy both the project and the community that has built up around it.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @03:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @03:18AM (#99441)

    That's the biggest problem. Just like Gnome 3 making sure you couldn't run your old Gnome 2 applications (not even by installing Gnome 2 on the side, due to conflicts between the libraries). And Firefox breaking some extensions on almost every update.

    Thou shalt not create incompatible interfaces.

    The same for Linux API. So what? Don't use programs that you don't like. I haven't had Firefox break any extensions I use on any upgrade yet, and I don't even use Gnome since it's slow and bloated.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @11:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @11:54AM (#99538)

    I don't want to use systemd. I'd love to avoid it completely. But how the fuck am I supposed to do that if Debian forces it onto my systems? Now I have to give up Debian completely, just because they made a stupid decision in one area? That's bollocks! Total bollocks! Systemd just shouldn't be included in Debian at all. If users want systemd, make them switch to Fedora or one of the other shitty distros that uses it.