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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Wednesday December 30 2020, @01:52AM (9 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday December 30 2020, @01:52AM (#1092711) Homepage
    I don't share all your optimism.

    At least here in Europe, I see the don't-care-about-anyone-else-but-me faction extending their don't-care-about-anyone-else-but-me behaviour as they get bored of having to pretend to care about anyone else but themselves. And it only takes a small minority to spoil things for everyone. (2 stories on BBC News presently are Brits being dicks in .ch, and Brits being dicks in .au, when I left that country decades back, I left it for a reason, and that reason is being reified presently.)

    Simply on the "vaccine" side, sure, we're moving forward, but it's hard not to see the current rollouts as anything more than the testing that still need to be done. Thank Turing we have multiple candidates, and more on the way, as it would be freakish if they were all to be perfect. So, yeah, we will see some unexpected side-effects of the vacine, complications with unexpected interaction, it's not a magic "stop" button. And there's still the spectre of the long term effects of the disease that no vaccine can undo. We simply don't know yet. May the studies be done scientifically, so that we can get the highest SNR possible, and make progress fastest.

    Econony - well, each country has a different story to tell. We're one of the poor men of Europe, but we punch above our weight, and our stats (e.g. no need for lockdowns yet) and fundamentals both look pretty strong. But that doesn't reassure me that the brewpub I'm a part owner of will be able to start turning a profit any time soon after we're allowed to open again. Our export market was damaged too, predictably, so income is at rock bottom. I have no idea if my life savings will slowly evaporate away if things don't pick up. I do live in a part of town where businesses appear and disappear with incredible rapidity, so I'm sure entrepreneurs will fill the gaps around me, but I'm not sure they'll turn a profit either, we're a tourism-dependent economy.

    Most scarily, what happens in Westpondia will affect everyone, worldwide. If Yellen persuades Biden that continuing to print money will solve problems, then more problems will arise. The big-business owners will cream billions in safe-haven assets off the bubbles that get further inflated by the fed, and the average folk will see their purchasing power, and any savings, absolutely annihilated. The late-20s/early-30s will be here again. It will be chaos. However, that might take several years, 2021 may avoid the worst.

    But I ain't a negative nancy, I went for "about the same".
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  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Wednesday December 30 2020, @03:19AM (8 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday December 30 2020, @03:19AM (#1092741) Journal
    All we can do is help ourselves and each other and hope for the best.

    After I made my post, I got word from one of my sisters that the place I volunteer at was hit with covid. I wasn't called because I had been off for 5 days before the first person felt sick, and a week before the test results come back. Dodged the bullet because I had herniated an old temporary colostomy from the 90s.

    How perversely lucky. Because I didn't feel lucky the last few weeks as it reduced.

    Anyway, one of my friends who works there tested positive, so I offered to let her stay here to isolate from her hubby and stepson if she felt it necessary. Two spare rooms, separate electric heating and windows in every room, it can be made comparatively safe.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Thursday December 31 2020, @12:55AM (7 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday December 31 2020, @12:55AM (#1093065) Homepage
      Indeed, now is a time for cooperation and support.

      One of the things that told me I had a really great friend here in this once-foreign country (I knew basically no-one here when I moved, it was rather tabula rasa) was when I messaged him something like "Oh, shit, I proper fucked up", and his instantanious reponse wasn't "what did you do?", or laddish jokes about whether my partner had found out about something, but simply "how can I help?". My wellbeing got a huge boost, no matter what troubles had beset me.
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      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday December 31 2020, @03:51AM (6 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday December 31 2020, @03:51AM (#1093106) Journal

        Hard times can be good times, as they provide people a chance to do good. At least that's what I keep saying.

        Then again, I'm probably full of shit thinking that. Maybe. Who knows? The world is f'ed up, news at 11.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mrpg on Thursday December 31 2020, @05:25AM (5 children)

          by mrpg (5708) Subscriber Badge <{mrpg} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday December 31 2020, @05:25AM (#1093125) Homepage

          The good thing is that you find out who are your real friends and who are just acquaintances.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31 2020, @08:48AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31 2020, @08:48AM (#1093144)

            <sarcasm>Wait a minute. Y'all had real friends?</sarcasm>

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31 2020, @04:39PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31 2020, @04:39PM (#1093288)

              "A friend is someone you need."

              - Neil Diamond in Heartlight

              Turn on your heartlight. And I'll call the next time I need anything from you.

          • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Friday January 01 2021, @06:04AM (1 child)

            by DECbot (832) on Friday January 01 2021, @06:04AM (#1093518) Journal

            Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.
            - Murphy's Law

            Q: What do you call a friend that you can't get rid of no matter what you do?
            A: Family.

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            • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:57PM

              by Freeman (732) on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:57PM (#1099540) Journal

              The same is true, if they weren't family to begin with.

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          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @11:46AM

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday January 27 2021, @11:46AM (#1105412)

            This is one of the good things I see coming from such a bizarrely conceived failed coup attempt in the U.S.

            I respect their right to feel as they do and I encourage them to continue screaming at the top of their lungs "I BELIEVE THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN."

            It's good to know where people stand.

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