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ScienceDaily reports:
Researchers say there should be an international database containing the very latest information about organ donations and transplants, so policy makers can make informed decisions on whether to adopt an opt-out or opt-in system.
The call comes after a study [in the UK], carried out by The University of Nottingham, the University of Stirling and Northumbria University, showed that overall an opt-out system might provide a greater number of organs for transplant but many factors can influence the success of either system and a repository of accessible information would help individual countries decide which one would be better for them.
The research published in the online academic journal BioMed Central Medicine (BMC Medicine), is the first international comparison that examines both deceased as well as living organ/transplant rates in opt-in and opt-out systems.
[...] Professor Fergusson argues that it is imperative for transplant organizations to routinely collect data on important organ donation indices -- consent type, procurement procedure, number of intensive care beds and trained surgeons -- and make this publicly available to inform future research and policy recommendations.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @10:10PM
Opt-out, I've always believed. You're not using them anymore. The selfish religious adherents can opt out if they think that's better for their immortal soul than helping a half dozen of their sick brothers and sisters.
It isn't just religious, lots of people just feel very uncomfortable about it. You might call it superstition but it really doesn't matter why people feel that way, all that matters is that people do feel that way. If you don't take into account how people feel you risk backlash that could easily end up making the situation even worse - like people passing laws to stop DMV's from even asking about organ donation. That's the price of living in a free society, people are free to selfish, superstitious assholes.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @10:34PM
You make a good point. Liberals and progressives often claim to be "more understanding", but then they completely fail to understand more conservative viewpoints, and sometimes even remain oblivious to this inability. This never helps their case, and like you mention, it often works very heavily against them.
I don't think it's "superstitious" or "selfish" at all, though, to take a stance against having one's organs donated. It's perfectly reasonable if somebody wants to give up his penis for transplant onto somebody else were he to die. But it's just as reasonable for somebody to not want to give up his penis for transplant onto somebody else were he to die.
Liberals and progressives like to go on about how important it is for a woman to have the right to control what goes on with her body, including the removal of what may be in her uterus. Yet many of them are totally incapable of extending this line of thinking to the other organs in somebody's body.
If a woman doesn't want a fetus in her uterus, then it's just as sensible for her to not want to give up that uterus were she to die early.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by hoochiecoochieman on Monday September 29 2014, @11:03PM
Bullshit. Nobody's forcing you to give any organs. Just opt-out and live happy being a hyper-sensitive selfish prima dona. But don't try to turn it into a strawman against groups you happen to dislike.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 29 2014, @11:05PM
The GP said nothing about his or her own preferences. The GP merely pointed out the contradictory viewpoints that some people hold. Why did you go and bring unrelated issues into this discussion?
(Score: 2) by hoochiecoochieman on Monday September 29 2014, @11:22PM
Nobody mentioned "Liberals and progressives" too, but he chose to bring them up right in the very first sentence and launch a straw man against them. His preferences are implicit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 30 2014, @02:29AM
As the original AC, I think that guy added more information to the discussion by unintentionally illustrating my point rather than his agreeing with my point.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Tuesday September 30 2014, @09:01AM
How EXACTLY is it a "strawman" to point out political parties have patterns? Would you likewise call it a "strawman" if somebody pointed out the ultra right really don't like poor folks?
Like it or not BOTH parties are hypocrites, supporting THE EXACT SAME SHIT when THEIR guy does it, see the left defend Obama despite him going farther on many Bush policies than Bush did, and like it or not BOTH PARTIES have patterns and tropes. The right big brother, the left big mommy, the right "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" the left "womb to the tomb".
If you consider it a strawman every time somebody points this out? You are a political hack, no different than those that comment on HuffyPo or FauxNews....BTW I have NOT read TFA, or even TFS other than the subject line...quick tell me is it a dem or a rep that is pushing this? I bet its a dem, yes? Or maybe a think tank that supports left causes, just like the one the right trots out whenever they want to privatize something? I rest my case.
Oh and just out of curiosity...were you one of the ones that modbombed those that asked for more info on the MO shooting artcile because they didn't know the details? Boy that was the day my hopes that this would be an actual balanced TECH site died a hard death. If all this "gleamed from HuffyPo" shit keeps up I won't be surprised to see this site die, as flamebait non tech HORSESHIT is the asscancer over on the green site and many of us came here to get AWAY from that ultra one sided groupthink circle jerking, and considering in the last 3 or 4 days have been several "HuffyPo Lite" articles that were obvious flamebait posted here and at the same time donations practically died? I really don't think its a coincidence. I swear all this flamebait circle jerk crap is starting to make Slash look "even and balanced"...maybe its time to check out pipedot..
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 30 2014, @11:50AM
He used the false-accusation-of-fallacy fallacy.
It's a pretty common debating technique these days. When somebody makes a good point that can't be logically refuted, the opponent falsely claims that one or more fallacies have been used.
The "strawman" and "ad hominem" fallacies are particularly abused this way.