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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 06 2021, @03:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the bit-flip-out dept.

Linus Torvalds On The Importance Of ECC RAM, Calls Out Intel's "Bad Policies" Over ECC

There's nothing quite like some fun holiday-weekend reading as a fiery mailing list post by Linus Torvalds. The Linux creator is out with one of his classical messages, which this time is arguing over the importance of ECC memory and his opinion on how Intel's "bad policies" and market segmentation have made ECC memory less widespread.

Linus argues that error-correcting code (ECC) memory "absolutely matters" but that "Intel has been instrumental in killing the whole ECC industry with it's horribly bad market segmentation... Intel has been detrimental to the whole industry and to users because of their bad and misguided policies wrt ECC. Seriously...The arguments against ECC were always complete and utter garbage... Now even the memory manufacturers are starting [to] do ECC internally because they finally owned up to the fact that they absolutely have to. And the memory manufacturers claim it's because of economics and lower power. And they are lying bastards - let me once again point to row-hammer about how those problems have existed for several generations already, but these f*ckers happily sold broken hardware to consumers and claimed it was an "attack", when it always was "we're cutting corners"."

Ian Cutress from AnandTech points out in a reply that AMD's Ryzen ECC support is not as solid as believed.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:25AM (4 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:25AM (#1095461) Journal

    Story of our lives. They cut corners everywhere. It's always a coldly calculated risk [wfu.edu]. Our *pillars of society* are just as crooked as the average heroine dealer that cuts his product with Drano

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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:27AM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:27AM (#1095464) Journal

    A bit Freudian, eh? Too bad spell check doesn't do context...

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:28AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:28AM (#1095465)

    are just as crooked as the average heroine dealer that cuts his product with Drano

    Uh, interesting analogy. Spoken from direct experience? :)

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 06 2021, @12:45PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @12:45PM (#1095585) Journal

    I scrub with Ajax you insensitive clod :D

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