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Phytium presents D2000 ARM-based octa-core desktop CPU for the Chinese market
The new Phytium D2000 processors use the same custom 64-bit ARMv8-compatible FTC663 cores integrated in last year's FeiTeng-2000/4 model, except now there are 4x 2-core clusters instead of 2. Each of these clusters shares a unified 2 MB L2 cache and 1 MB L3 cache (8 MB of L2 cache and 4 MB L3 cache in total). This architecture features a four-issue out-of-order pipeline combined with Phytium's latest dynamic branch predictor and INT / FP units supporting ARM's ASIMD instructions. There is also support for SM2 / SM3 / SM4 / SM9 cryptography algorithms and the proprietary PSPA 1.0 security platform.
As far as hardware specs go, the D2000 is not really a match for the latest Intel and AMD chips, as it is built on China's own 14 nm nodes. Still, it features all the standard features you would expect from an entry-level CPU, including 128-bit DDR4-3200 / LPDDR4 RAM support, 34 PCIe 3.0 lanes that can be split into four PCIe 3.0 x8 slots and two PCIe 3.0 x1 slots, plus 2x GbE NiCs, 32 GPIO lanes, and an integrated audio codec. There is no iGPU, however. Core clock speeds will be set between 2.3 - 2.6 GHz, with a 25 W TDP, and the processor scores 97.45 points in the SPECint test.
Phytium is currently rolling out the D2000 chips to Chinese PC OEMs, and the first systems featuring the new processors are expected to hit the market in late Q1 2021.
Many more details at Tom's Hardware.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:58PM (5 children)
So Win10 or some Panda-linux?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:18PM (4 children)
It could be something like Ubuntu Kylin [wikipedia.org]. Here is a story [tomshardware.com] about the previous quad-core FeiTeng-2000/4.
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(Score: 2) by sgleysti on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:48PM (3 children)
You seem to follow this. Does phytium support ECC ram?
(Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:02AM (2 children)
Based on this post [cnx-software.com] about the Phytium FT-2000/4, the answer is probably yes. But don't go running to Alibaba until you get the facts straight.
They also make server chips, like this 64-core FT-2000+/64 [wikichip.org] that supports ECC.
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(Score: 2) by looorg on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:35PM (1 child)
This is one of the interesting aspects, that even if this is mainly for the chinese market -- or chinese associated market as I doubt they'll want to go head-2-head with Intel/AMD/Arm in the western markets at the moment. Buying one from Alibaba is an actual option and if turns out this is great in some aspect it becomes an actual option. If it's just cheap enough, interesting enough and you can do fun things with it then it's going to be a totally viable option for the western enthusiasts.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday January 10 2021, @07:39PM
There are no bad products, only bad prices.
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(Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:18PM (1 child)
It seems I made a mistake disparaging you, China. It now appears that, thanks to a few of your White-but-beady-eyed and hooknosed friends entrenched in America, yours is the world's future and I see that you have cities tailored to Westerners [whenonearth.net]. Although you and I weren't always in agreement, I will note that I am on the record here posting that America should "just give Taiwan to the Chinks (that's you!)."
If we could agree to forgo the re-education and behavior modification aspects of Chinese citizenship, I hereby promise in exchange to always toe your party line and endorse your enslavement of the Uyghur people just as the Jewish within America are attempting to enslave non-Jewish Americans. I know a lot about technology and I can improve your industrial processes so that your shit isn't always collapsing and exploding, and could provide useful translation and English instruction services as needed. I'd like to add that I graduated from an American computer science program administered by your fine Confucius Institute and so would make an excellent drop-in worker insect to suit your needs.
Note: Offer void should Americans liberate America before Jan. 20.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @07:47PM
Stupid people say stupid things. News at 11.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Snotnose on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:20PM (3 children)
The x86 ISA is dying under it's 50 y/o weight, Intel can't get their fabs to shrink enough to make that whale viable any more. Meanwhile ARM is eating Intel's lunch on the fastest growing segment. Apple has made a custom designed ARM + SOC that kick's Intel's ass. Meanwhile folks are looking at RISC-V, keeping in mind Apple's core + coprocessors lead. Gee, are MIPS and SH-4 still around? If so they might have something to say in the next few years.
Ooops, forgot to mention AMD. My bad.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:34PM
I'd like to see other players (Samsung? Apple?) invest into RISC-V.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:56AM
Which unfortunately looks stillborn now. The last update was from 2017 or 2018 and they were expecting the patents for moving from SH2 to SH3/4 to expire in 2020 and 2022 or something. Problematicly, they were going to need to design a new 'SH5' for 64 bit extensions since the 64 bit version that had been build never got any real implementations and had a number of notable flaws in hindsight.
MIPS is still around and China's Loongson chips are based on an older ISA of it (May have updted since?) The latest MIPS ISAs broke ABI compatibility at least twice although I think a qemu executable shim can make legacy binaries work, at a performance penalty.
Besides that I honest think the best bet is waiting for the x86_64 patents to expire next year(?) find any other IP issues with implementing the ISA from either Intel or AMD, then work on standardizing a new socket, perhaps giving up the performance of integrated memory controllers and going back to a northbridge, only with better prefetch behavior on the cpu to cover up the memory latency, allowing any capacity of memory without reliance on the cpu's integrated memory controller.
By 2026 we'll have virtualization extensions, and if we fix the speculative execution flaws in a fork of the x86_64 architecture, we could both provide legacy x86 support in a same-chip solution, and have hardware that could be drop in compatible with future motherboard designs with all high performance technology. By doing this we could provide replacement legacy hardware (IE for industrial systems where drivers only run a specific OS version/speeds) and provide newer systems and busses that can interface with previous/alternative iterations of chips, much like Socket 7 and then Super Socket 7 allowed back in the 90s.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @12:47PM
Such a naive comment. First, if you believe x86 today has any resemblance to what it was 50 years ago, I have a bridge to sell you.