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When all the votes are counted this year, Americans should have far more confidence their votes were tallied correctly than in 2016.
After that contest was upended by Russian interference, states vastly increased the number of votes that are cast with paper records that can be audited later. More than 90 percent of votes will have a paper record this year compared with about 80 percent in 2016.
States have also significantly improved how often and how scrupulously they perform post-election audits.
The changes have been especially significant in some of the states ... contested by Trump.
Georgia and Pennsylvania have both shifted from having paper records for few or none of their voters in 2016 to having paper records for all votes cast in their states — a protection security experts say is a bare minimum to ensure votes weren’t altered by hackers or miscounted because of a technology failure.
The Cybersecurity 202: More states now have paper trails to verify votes were correctly counted
(Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @08:38PM (9 children)
The only states that DON'T have paper trails for 2020: Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kansas, Indiana, Kentucky and New Jersey.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @08:57PM
The irony never stops with conservatives. 2016 they ignored all concerns about election security, stopped any legislation that would improve election security, and refused to acknowledge the very real voter disenfrachisment from Georgia's GOP purging voter rolls and a variety of other concerns around the country.
So far the GOP is the group destroying democracy the most, and as usual gaslighting everyone else to keep attention off themselves. Now they are driving their crazier followers to volent insurrection, and they still try and blame BLM and Antifa.
Party of Personal Responsibility folks dot dot dot dot dot
I can only presume all the assholes defending this shit around here are not drooling morons, they are actually seditious bastards who are 100% willing to use violence to achieve their political goals. We are going to die of iron poisoning.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:45PM (7 children)
Paper trails mean jack and shit, unless you consider the ability to create or destroy a piece of paper with data on it somehow beyond the capabilities of those wishing to commit election fraud. If you figure that that's how to do security, you are officially, explicitly disinvited from joining the admin staff.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:54PM (6 children)
Look at Buzzard desperately move those goalposts!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:17PM (5 children)
Oh? I seem to remember me saying for quite some time now that paper trails were all but meaningless and pointing out numerous means of committing election fraud with little or no danger of detection. And even had I moved the goalposts there, it still wouldn't be as absurd as comparing two elections and declaring one "the most secure ever!". And even if you were actually correct about it being "the most secure election ever!", that would be less meaningful than saying "the most secure Microsoft product ever!".
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:57PM (1 child)
Oversight of computer data is simply not possible, requires uncommon skills. I prefer that it remain human readable throughout the entire process, without electricity. Paper is still the most secure system we have. It can still be delivered by pony express and carrier pigeon
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:34PM
Even though our last election was completely backed by paper, I feel a whole lot less confident about it as the primary counting was moved to back office facilities away from local precincts. Signature verification, stated by the courts to the Trump campaign to protect against ballot box stuffing, was not performed.
The elections process was changed by the republican legislature and the democrat governor last November, before the p(l)andemic was much in the news. If the entire last year was a scheme to get politics back to usual, the republicans will have hurt themselves the most. The democrats just hold all the smarts and talent in PR and demagoguery at the moment, while half of America supports a disrupter of politics as usual like Trump.
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:09PM (2 children)
"Ain't it funny how all us tech types went from saying electronic voting was so flawed in the US that every result should be assumed to be fraud to saying it's secure enough to blindly trust without a paper trail over the course of four years?" - The Mighty Buzzard [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:26PM (1 child)
Ruh roh, buzzlardo's idiocy coming home to roost. Like Trump there is probably an ironic TMB post for every stulid thing he says. Buzzy criticizes buzzy? Next week on Traitors'R'Conservative.....
On a side note, the more we are learning about the capitol hill insurrection the worse it gets. Glad TMB and Ruaway are here to explain how what we see with our own eyes is deep state something something.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:07PM
Remembering one whole month ago is like a superpower to Trump supporters.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @08:50PM (23 children)
Then they should have had no problem doing a properly observed signature audit for mail in ballots.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:01PM (10 children)
They did not have any problems, but thank you for your concern!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:55PM (9 children)
Evidently they didn't have any problems stealing the election but even with the collusion of the courts, it remains unlawful.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:58PM (6 children)
What makes you think it was stolen?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:27PM (5 children)
Joe Biden told us. [thefederalist.com]
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:36AM (4 children)
The embedded video of Biden :
https://www.youtube.com/embed/BRZEs9BRGK4 [youtube.com]
Is that a deepfake or did he really say that?
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @02:12AM
Most likely they are trolling with a selective cut. I really wish the 4chan wibblers would stick to their poop filled sandbox instead of spreading it around here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @03:44AM
Of course he said it. MSM dismissed it as a gaffe [usatoday.com] rather than recognize it as a Freudian slip. [denverpost.com]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Socrastotle on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:55AM (1 child)
It's real. You can see the whole [youtu.be] video here. The link I provided skips to the time of the "gaffe". I don't really know what exactly he meant to say, because in context it really looks much worse, in my opinion:
He then later goes on to state:
-----
Go to IWillVote.com . There are exactly two buttons: "Check if I'm registered to vote" and "Register to Vote". Generally the information you need for either is easy to obtain even for people who are not who they claim they are: name/date of birth/address. This is why signature matching, at the minimum, was absolutely critical to ensure election integrity. And in places like Georgia, they accepted these [youtu.be] signatures as matching. That's footage from a Senatorial hearing on irregularities in Georgia. And, by the way, that is evidence of fraud. The man who's "signature" that showed is a lawyer and sued the state, because that ballot clearly should not have been accepted. But it was. Incidentally, he's now also been banned from social media, because reasons.
Anybody who believes this was the "most secure election ever", would have just loved правда. And that's the truth.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:10PM
Clearly he is referring to overwhelming the Republican voter suppression machine by voting in large numbers. Y'know....how you win an election in a Democracy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:16AM
You have confused collusion with Russia, which was 2016, and for which there is actual evidence. First it was the Dems stealing, and now the courts? Next thing you know, you will be ripping up your American flag drained of blood (Blue Lives Fascist) like that guy trying to storm the Capitol Building! Cops are in on it, too!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:01AM
You were serious?
I must get my sarcasm meter fixed.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:07PM (11 children)
Go ahead. Prove to a judge that you're not full of shit then reprocess them in any manner the laws allows.
The only places where you CAN'T do that are Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kansas, Indiana, Kentucky and New Jersey.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:53PM (9 children)
That's just what you dickheads are openly admitting!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:08PM (8 children)
God forbid we treat every voter the same! The horror!
Before you know it we'll be counting all the votes too!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:25PM (7 children)
There's your problem. Would you accept a check in exchange for goods without an exact match signature or verifiable form of id?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:58PM (6 children)
Nice attempt at shifting there. Regardless of what the rules are, it is important that they be the same for everyone.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:27AM (5 children)
There's no shift, the verification requirements for a check or vote are identical - exact match or GTFO.
They clearly were not. [informationliberation.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:44AM (1 child)
Super reliable source of information there, totally not a propaganda farm /rolls_eyes
for anyone that doesn't want to bother clicking the link
With one graph of google search trends and one showing mail-in ballot percentages by state with Pennsylvania compared to Michigan, Ohio, Arizona, Georgia, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Florida. Totally not an attempt to cherry pick "the truth" to push a specific narrative.
"Fake news" they scream, as they drop every brain cell to believe balatant propaganda as absolute truth.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:57AM
The performative nature of pseudo-reality [newdiscourses.com] was more than balatant (sic) in Biden's non-existent "Office of the President-Elect". [hg.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:20AM
NO, you GTFO, traitor! Rebel scum! (Remember, how in Star Wars, that was a good thing? And not a crazy fascist attempt to overthrow the US Constitution, like it is now?)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:29PM (1 child)
Look dude, for the longest time I had a female name on my ID, checks and stuff issued to my deadname, and I didn't have any problems. I was actually expecting at least one person to be a total dick, but that didn't happen. I was even able to deposit a sizable check (5 figures) written to my deadname with my female name ID to my female name checking account, conduct real estate transactions that way, etc so it's not like we're talking petty cash and smokes or booze here.
As it turns out, the vast majority of people aren't autistic idiots like you, so your hypothesis of exact match fails.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:38AM
Cool story, dudette.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:27AM
Must be the reason most of those states went for Trump, nobody can prove/disprove fraud.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:19PM (11 children)
Really? They fucked with the machines and flipped votes? Haven't heard that one yet...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:36PM (10 children)
We don't know because there wasn't a paper trail.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:40PM (9 children)
Snark aside it's a lot more plausible than you may realize.
Georgia specifically: Was Georgia’s Election System Hacked in 2016? [politico.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:21PM
"But the state has been fighting them for more than a year, citing sovereign immunity from lawsuits and also insisting to the news media that Georgia was never targeted by Russian hackers."
Why would anyone object to someone investigating election hacking and fraud? Gee, let me think.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:43PM (7 children)
No, what is far more plausible is domestic meddling [washingtonpost.com]. Heh, doesn't always work [theatlantic.com].. The Russian shit is more like conspiracy theory to entertain and distract people.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:46PM (6 children)
Uh...okay? None of that is illegal and it would barely be unethical at it's worst.
Another pointless false equivalency.
(Score: 2, Redundant) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:53PM (5 children)
Your "false equivalency" bullshit is another distraction. There is nothing false about it. Domestic interference is the real problem you just want to sweep under the rug.
And on this day we watch your people drag their feet... Hope they had a nice weekend
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:06PM (4 children)
I'm talking about stealing people's votes in a Democracy.
You're talking about people giving campaign donations for reasons you think are bad.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:44PM (3 children)
Gee, so is the prez... Don't worry, I don't believe his conspiracy theories any more than I believe yours. Blame passing is non-partisan. But your obsession over details is very one sided. If there is ballot stuffing, it is domestic also.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:17AM (2 children)
DM shared an article that speculates about possible hacking of election machines. You conflate that with political fund-raising issues. You get called out and get all pissy.
Your trolling and narrative shifting is so annoying, especially when paired with your never ending self-righteous whining.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:05AM (1 child)
He's droning on about the Russians... Just plain old scapegoating to distract from the source of the problem right here at home.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @02:16AM
You are THE divisive troll on SN right now. Better luck next time chanboi.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:01PM (7 children)
On Eve of House Vote, McConnell Is Said to Be Pleased About Effort to Impeach Trump [nytimes.com]
It would be sweet to wake up on a morning where Trump has been impeached and confirmed by a trial in the senate. Or alternately, that the 25th has come to be.
The Electoral College voting is an affirmative action program for low populated states.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:32PM (3 children)
Cocaine Mitch is happy with the "Most secure election evar"? [alternet.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:20AM
Suddenly you care about Mitch's lack of integrity when it doesn't work in your favor? Shocking indeed.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:51PM (1 child)
McConnell is from Kentucky, one of the few states that refuses to implement a paper trail.
Best yet doesn't mean perfect.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:07PM
Yes, and his reelection is very suspicious.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:48PM
Yeah, but then you look over and... AAAAHHHH!!!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:11AM
Mitch is one of those Republicans who love Mammon slightly more than they love Cheeto Jesus, which is to say, he realizes full-blown insurrection would be bad for his stock portfolio. This is the extent of Mitt "Bain Capital" Romney's "conscience" as well, and probably that of every other Republican who isn't sucking the gleba out of Trump's misshapen mushroom.
There's nothing more to it. They're a bunch of opportunistic egomaniacs who see the world as their personal bank account, and they are the closest thing to "good guys" in the GOP.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Gaaark on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:05PM
I don't think Trump cares about impeachment: he's hoping that he'll incite the revolution that puts him in absolute power. He doesn't care about the Constitution or America or Americans except for the fact that he needs some of them to accomplish that for him.
He wants absolute power: he just needs idiotic, deluded Brown shirts to back him up. Giuliani seems to be his Goebbels, if that doesn't make you laugh.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: -1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 12 2021, @11:25PM (49 children)
We watched on live television, those states that colluded together to steal the votes, actually SUBTRACTED Trump votes in the middle of the night.
Tell me again how secure this shit was.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:03AM (7 children)
Yawn. More of the same. For someone who claimed they didn't care about who would win the election, you sure seem to care about the wrong party winning.
(Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:12AM (6 children)
Never said I didn't care. I've often said that I don't like Trump, and I like Democrats less. Careful which words you try to put in my mouth.
Again, many of us sat up on election night, and much of the next day, watching the count. We WITNESSED all of the networks rolling Trump votes back, that is they SUBTRACTED Trump votes. If Trump had stayed the same, while Biden picked up a half million votes, that would be understandable. There is no reasonable explanation for large numbers to be SUBTRACTED. Explain away, I'm not really listening.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:29AM (5 children)
How about you send us some video clips of these live broadcasts, then explain why such irregularities were't found during subsequent recounts and investigations. Also, if this evidence is so very evident, then why have the 60+ lawsuits Trump pushed not shared any of this evidence?
I did some searching to see if there was any information about your claims and boy is the bullshit strong with every rightwing artice I looked at. One listed some of the fraud claims and actually had the gall to say "there is no actual evidence but we know these claims are real." There is something very wrong with you that you can read such bullshit and just wholeheartedly believe it even when they admit to not having evidence. Then you turn around and whine about anonymous sources outing Trump, when you are totally seriously not a fan of him.
You're losing your mind bruh.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:32AM (4 children)
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3906667/posts [freerepublic.com]
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:50AM (2 children)
ahhahahahahahaha
OMG
You RWNJs truly are idiots, like big giant derpy drug addled MORONS!! I'm not even going to do you the favor of telling you why you're so dumb. Thank you, I really needed some humor in these trying times. The grifters really have a low opinion of your intellect, but apparently that is deserved.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:07AM (1 child)
Oh noes the idiots are modding me down! Lol, doesn't change your stupidity. In fact that lets me know you read it and cared enough to downmod =)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:26AM
Don't worry, AC! We "ACs in Favor of Reality" have your back! We will mod you back up, to counter the forces of darkness and confusion! We wil refudicate the freepers, and misunderestimate the numbers of Q's! We will help the Runaway, to runaway, again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:50AM
One obvious data entry error and another that doesn't appear anywhere other than a single instance of CNN's time lapse of votes.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 13 2021, @12:11AM
Very secure. Only 1.7% of 'em got away from us. Definitely one of our better seasons
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:31AM (1 child)
Mistakes are made and corrected. Nobody is perfect except runaway who is a perfect asshole.
(Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @02:02AM
Your recognition is appreciated. So few people have your perception.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @03:21PM (30 children)
Did you rescind your oath to defend the Constitution when you left the service?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @03:41PM (29 children)
I'm quite tired of that asshole question. Democrats don't define my duties to the Constitution of the United States. The question itself is yet another demonstration of the fascist tendencies of the left.
I STILL do not see an "insurrection" as you guys like to call it. I most certainly DO SEE that some of the demonstraters got out of hand, and committed criminal acts. Those criminal acts should be dealt with - and stop the fricking witch hunt. There is no widespread insurrection against the Constitution of the United States.
If you really want to push your fool's question, I am far more inclined to join the protesters against Biden, than I am to join in the witch hunt.
Do you even understand why one party is prevented from interpreting the constitution? Do you have a clue how quickly you and your Dems could set up a fascist enforcement force that would rival any of those in Europe in the early 1900's?
Be careful what you wish for. I may be the insurrectionist next year if things are pushed too far.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @03:55PM (25 children)
It would shock nobody if you joined the ranks of the anti-Democracy Terrorists.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:15PM (24 children)
Anti Democrat and anti democracy aren't spelled the same, nor are they synonymous.
Your party has spent four years openly fighting the duly elected president of the United States. See my sig. Your party has actively fought the will of the people of this nation for four years. See my sig again.
Despite all the resources of the Democrat party, and the media in bed with them, I still don't think this past election as fair and accurate. Whatever happened to that truckload of ballots sent from New York to Pennsylvania? How were all those ballots - basically half a tractor-trailer load of ballots - ever explained? They've been destroyed, no fair and impartial arbiter will ever figure out WTF those were all about.
As I say, I've far more likely to become an insurrectionist against the Democrat party, than I am to do anything you would like me to do. Just keep pushing the witch hunt.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:34PM (22 children)
I don't give a shit if you turn into a terrorist.
We're not afraid of you gun toting pussies.
We just like to point out that after decades of terrorist fearmongering that you ARE the terrorists.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:38PM (21 children)
Portland, asshole. Seattle's autonomous little hill. Clear cut insurrection and treason. Tell me more about terrorists.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @04:45PM (10 children)
OOh, the scary vegans in Seattle! How many police officers did they bludgeon to death, again?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:10PM (9 children)
https://nypost.com/2020/08/04/federal-officers-in-portland-suffered-113-eye-injuries-from-lasers-dhs/ [nypost.com]
https://nypost.com/2020/07/27/seattle-police-show-injuries-damage-suffered-from-ongoing-riots/ [nypost.com]
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/27/violent-seattle-protest-sees-59-police-officers-injured-at-least-one-hospitalized/ [breitbart.com]
Of course, injuries only count if and when you want them to count, right?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:46PM (8 children)
Death. No officers were straight murdered, not to mention way more protesters and rioters were injured than police. Party of personal responsibility folks, tribal politics at its worst. Good job runaway, best plan on making good on that nick before the feds moron labe you.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:14PM (4 children)
And, I'll remind you that no officers were "straight murdered" in D.C. either. There is video evidence that he was assaulted, and battered, but there is little indication that his death was intended. We'll wait for the trial to learn more details, I think.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday January 13 2021, @08:52PM (3 children)
He died as a direct result of injuries sustained in that assault and battery with a fire extinguisher to the head. That's at least 2nd degree murder in most places.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @09:15PM (2 children)
You may be right. If I have all the threads of that story in order, the man returned to his precinct, under his own power, where he collapsed, before being taken to hospital. Chances are, he died as a result of head injuries suffered in that attack, but I've not read a coroner's report to that effect. Could have been a heart attack, for all we know.
I'm curious about those other deaths which have been attributed to "natural causes". Most recently, I read that a woman was trampled to death, but the others remain mysteries.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:33AM (1 child)
"You may be right."
You really have trouble grappling with reality. Is it genetic? Behavioral? A result of sucking Trump cock?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 15 2021, @02:18AM
It's because he doesn't want to. You can't reason your way out of a position you emotioned yourself into.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:19PM (2 children)
The "Blue Lives Matter" people killed more police officers in four hours than Antifa did in nine months.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:40PM (1 child)
The left has been pissing on law enforcement all summer long, now you want this one lawman to use as a martyr. Got it.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:27AM
Whatever Nazi scum :-)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:40PM (6 children)
The cattle rancher assholes that did an armed occulation of a federal building asshile. I remember that story around here too and as usual you treason types were all about flexing 2nd amendment rights and standing up to the big bad feds. CHAZ was a weird little experiment in anarchy which had no problems aside from the unrelated murder. Caputol hill police were killed and quite a large group of thw terrorists wanted to murder Pence and Pelosi.
Keep it up boyo, let everyone around here see that Azuma and Ari have been speaking truth no matter how much you whinge about tone. "Don't believe your eyes and ears, the MSM is lying to you," Trump said. You qultish buy-in would be funny if it didn't carry real threats of domestic terrorism. Killing some people somewhere will only make us sad and angry, not afraid of Meal Team 6.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:18PM (5 children)
I hate when anyone occulates a federal building - even the assholes in Portland and Seattle and Kenosha.
While you're remembering CHAZ, could you tally up the total of injured and the dead? I think there was more than just the one murder. Also, that video of all those clock-suckers in CHAZ abusing, denigrating, and attempting to murder a reporter whom they didn't like. We do, all of us, understand that "anarchy" is just a pretty word for describing "lawless motherfuckers", don't we?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:34PM (2 children)
Aww someone just can't condemn rightwing terrorism, just like Trump can't condemn white supremacy. How many times must we condemn leftwing violence before you stop using it as an excuse for rightwing violence? The gaslighting is real, go fuck yourself traitor.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:16PM (1 child)
Right back atcha. Ready to condemn the violence in Portland, Seattle, and Kenosha?
BTW, you obviously haven't read this entire thread. You sound like a professional cherry picker.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:29AM
So you ARE an incel!
Couldn't even afford a cheap hooker in all those years? Into cuck porn and your kids aren't really yours? Or did you masturbate into a turkey baster because you couldn't let a vagina "conquer" that peepee?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:43PM (1 child)
Armed Protesters Break Into Oregon State Capitol Building, Break Windows, Assault Journalists, Hit Police With Chemical Agent [deadline.com]
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:54PM
I readily recognize that it's simply wrong that the people are barred from entering The People's House. Closed sessions and assorted shitz, kept secret from the people.
No dead cops? The worst complaint is some guy used pepper spray on the police? Oh yeah - forgot - cops can have weapons, but real people can't. It's alright for cops to tear gas people, but people can't spray back. FACISTS!!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 13 2021, @06:14PM
:-) As you already know, they're all right wingers... Trump's people. Nobody benefits from this but him.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday January 13 2021, @08:47PM (1 child)
Whatabout whatabout whatabout
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @09:16PM
Well, whatabout it?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:27PM
Perfect asshole still doesn't think. Not unusual. But it does not matter what you think, because you are now craven, you have abandoned your oath, what you think matters not, since you are a perfect lying asshole, untrustworthy, and a Republican.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:05PM (2 children)
Umm wut? Pointimg out that you swore an oath to defend the constitution is democrat fascism? Trying to overthrow the constitutionally defined process of democracy with a violent attack upon congress without evidence as admitted by Trump's own attorney is not a violation of that oath?
We're sorry words mean things???
And your answer is "waatch your mouth or I'll join the terrorists and attempt to kill political opponents?" We jave proof of Trump's fascism, clear as day and you ignore it. Trump the known liar tells you there is fraud and suddenly group think means it happened?
Can't fucking even. Just watching the birth of a domestic terrorist is crazy. Page us when something as fascist as Trump actually happens. No 60+ faailed court cases across multiple states, court systems, and politically affiliated judges doesn't pass the sniff test.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:11PM (1 child)
Reading comprehension, much? Come back when you've learned to read.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 13 2021, @05:48PM
Right back atcha traitor ;-)
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday January 13 2021, @07:59PM (6 children)
I'm gonna need some proof and citations on that claim.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 13 2021, @08:20PM (5 children)
AC already posted above with this link -
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3906667/posts [freerepublic.com]
You too, can see it happen, albeit not in real real time.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday January 13 2021, @10:06PM (4 children)
Holy Fuck!!! There you have it, that's all the proof you needed!
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Oorrrrr maybe some rube at CNN added the votes to the wrong column on their graphic? Or someone at the PA election count? You know, errors?
Oh nevermind. Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise; you've bought the lies hook, line and sinker. Your hatred of Democrats is blinding you from the obvious.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:24AM (3 children)
Those are nice sounding, innocent sounding, excuses. But, it didn't just happen in Pennsylvania. It happened in Georgia, too. Then, the same thing happened again in the runoff elections, which the Dems won handily. It's a recurring once-in-a-lifetime occurrence that you might expect to see happen in one state or another, in about 40 years of voting. Same thing happened in other battleground states.
But, we're supposed to trust the fekkin election machines. They don't make mistakes. The people operating the machines don't make mistakes. What's more, the people operating the machines have no partisan ties. And, additionally, none of those machines are connected to the internet - except those ones that were publicly hacked into during testimony regarding the vulnerability of those machines.
But, don't mine me. I'm the trusting soul, who places complete faith in the Democrat political machine.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @02:12AM
As the "respectable" media tells you to do.
But I think the machine issue is a red herring. Operating mistakes should show up in a recount. Pulling out suitcases from under the tables when the observers have been ejected, pasting up the windows to prevent even remote glimpses (and photographs) is not something that happens when an election is supposed to be fair and the most secure EVAH.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday January 14 2021, @07:06PM (1 child)
Unless you have some solid evidence of actual election fraud large enough to swing the election all you have is conjecture and feelings, neither of which will stand up in a court of law.
No, you're not supposed to trust the election machines. That's why we wanted paper ballots that can be counted. I notice that you don't question the results from any of the states that don't have a paper trail to follow. Why do you trust those?
I'm going to take a guess that it's because the "correct" candidate won those.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 14 2021, @10:20PM
I question all of the election. All of it. I've never approved of any system without a paper trail. But the paper trail isn't even reliable. Whatever came of that 1/2 truckload of ballots shipped to Philly, that was delayed at the loading dock for all of a (8 hour) working day? Apparently filled-out ballots waiting to be counted, if necessary, but since they weren't needed, they were sent somewhere to be destroyed.
I'm not sure we can trust the results of any election in any state this time around, and certainly not in the designated "battle states".
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.