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Trump impeached for 'inciting' US Capitol riots:
The US House of Representatives has impeached President Donald Trump for "incitement of insurrection" at last week's Capitol riot.
Ten Republicans sided with Democrats to impeach the president by 232-197.
He is the first president in US history to be impeached twice, or charged with crimes by Congress.
Mr Trump, a Republican, will now face a trial in the Senate, where if convicted he could face being barred from ever holding office again.
But Mr Trump will not have to quit the White House before his term in office ends in one week because the Senate will not reconvene in time.
Mr Trump will leave office on 20 January, following his election defeat last November to Democrat Joe Biden.
The Democratic-controlled House voted after several hours of impassioned debate on Wednesday as armed National Guard troops stood guard inside and outside the Capitol.
[...] Impeachment charges are political, not criminal.
Also at Newsweek, c|net, Al Jazeera, Washington Post.
[Ed Note - The linked article has been revised since submission. The quoted text has been revised accordingly. - Fnord]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:13AM (7 children)
If you need to go back 40 years to find an example of leftwing violence you might just be a cherry picker.
(Score: 1, Troll) by hemocyanin on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:22AM (6 children)
Were we talking about the capital building? I mean if you want to broaden things, how about the billion or so in damages, dozens of lives lost, countless small business dreams destroyed -- in the last six or seven MONTHS.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:44AM (3 children)
Actually, your false equivalence is the problem but there is still nothing wrong with pointing out the errors of it. No one is saying the riots were OK. Explaining why people are rioting and how the grievances are legitimate? Not the same as condoning them.
Now we have grievances from conservatives over the election, and all of you that cried about BLM violence are now excusing RWNJ violence? You are free to peacefully protest like the vast majority of BLM folks did, but insurrection will be condemned.
I am so tired of rightwing lies and bad faith arguments. Again, we liberals agreed that rioters should be arrested while saying protesters should not be assaulted for exercising their Constitutional rights. You conservatives refuse to condemn the insurrection in the capitol that resulted in 5 deaths in one afternoon while at the same time using liberal violence as some kind of excuse.
Do you not see what is wrong with your thinking? Also, even if some liberal cheered on the riots that doesn't excuse you doing the same thing for your side. Two wrongs don't make a right remember?
"My approach is different of course because as a liberal humanist -- not a leftist authoritarian such as yourself -- I oppose politically motivated violence from the left or the right."
So do that? You replied to DM who said "Took a whole week. When BLM looked at the White House crooked that shit was up in about 25 minutes!"
If you are truly a liberal humanist then you would agree with DM here, the disproportionate responses are inhumane and illiberal. So you're either a liar or an idiot, you tell us! But hey, people can change, so maybe if you come to grips with reality you can return to sanity.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @01:38AM
Hemocyanin is both a liar and an idiot! That is what all the false equivalence is about! Massacre in Bowling Green! Carnage in America! And hemo's back story is that he used to be sane, but now is anti-antifi, which, when you do the math, if pro-fascist. He's "special". But it is more of a downward spiral, and most never recover.
(Score: 0, Troll) by hemocyanin on Thursday January 14 2021, @04:59AM (1 child)
It's not a false equivalence.
You are applying Repressive Tolerance, which means you are willing to use violence to secure certain political aims while condemning violence to secure political objectives with which you disagree.
This makes you a person not interested in equality under the law, fairness, or justice. It makes you a person who is solely concerned with power and who does not care who is hurt in your pursuit of power, and one who has total faith in the righteousness of your cause. You are nothing but the modern equivalent of medieval Crusader, a pogrom leader, an authoritarian. In your heart lies the seed of every mass atrocity the world has seen.
https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html [marcuse.org]
That's you. You accept evil. You embrace it.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @07:32AM
Yes it is and you're projecting. I specifically condemned leftwing violence, but you ignore that and continue with your false equivalence.
Either you're too upset about my rudeness and just lashing out, or you are deliberately engaging in intellectual dishonesty to push a narrative.
Don't really care, you've been pushing the rightwing narrative hard for a while and claiming to be a "real humanist liberal" so I guess we're back to "Ok boomer" but If it makes you feel better the worst thing I want to do is imprison criminals, rioters and insurrectionists alike. Please try and store that in long term memory.
(Score: 3, Informative) by helel on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:21AM (1 child)
Ah yes, this lie conservatives love spreading about. Yes, there have been a few protesters [usatoday.com] killed by right winger terrorists, but that hardly seems like an indictment of the left, now does it?
Police injuries are hard to measure but the one's I've seen specifically reported on were either self inflicted (maybe don't use chemical weapons if you don't like breathing them when the wind shifts) or were the result of self defense on the part of the protesters they were brutally [oregonlive.com] attacking [twitter.com]. When you're surrounded by cops any direction you try to kick [rt.com] a teargas container will become felonious assault on an officer.
So, don't just throw vague numbers around. Can you link to specific cases of protesters being the perpetrators, rather than victims, of violence or killings? How bout those "countless small businesses" destroyed? Can you give me a list of a few?
I'll even help you out: When Aaron Danielson stabbed Antifa protester Michael Reinoehl and his friend Michael shot Aaron in self defense, ultimately killing him [vice.com]. Whether or not using a gun in self defense is acceptable behavior I'll leave to the experts in the 2A crowd.
Republican Patriotism [youtube.com]
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Friday January 15 2021, @11:30PM
Are you serious? Did you pay no attention to the people killed CHAZ? Have you really not seen pictures or videos of the devastation in your favored media?
Here, pick your preferred links from a relatively unbiased search engine:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=2020+riot+damage&atb=v211-1&iax=images&ia=images [duckduckgo.com]
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=2020+riot+damage+costs&t=lm&atb=v211-1&ia=web [duckduckgo.com]
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=CHAZ+killings&t=lm&atb=v211-1&ia=web [duckduckgo.com]