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Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup and may have had help from federal law-enforcement officials

... a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations... said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation.

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One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.

“The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration’s members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held,” the NATO intelligence official said.

“The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.

“The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn’t really tell them to stop,” the official said. “Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.

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The French police official said they believed that an investigation would find that someone interfered with the deployment of additional federal law-enforcement officials on the perimeter of the Capitol complex; the official has direct knowledge of the proper procedures for security of the facility.
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It is routine for the Capitol Police to coordinate with the federal Secret Service and the Park Police and local police in Washington, DC, before large demonstrations. The National Guard, commanded by the Department of Defence, is often on standby too.

On Wednesday, however, that coordination was late or absent.

“You cannot tell me I don’t know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine,” the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites.

“These are not subtle principles” for managing demonstrations, “and they transfer to every situation,” the official said. “This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it’s obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored.”

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The third official, who works in counterintelligence for a NATO member, agreed that the situation could only be seen as a coup attempt, no matter how poorly considered and likely to fail, and said its implications might be too huge to immediately fathom.

“Thank God it didn’t work, because I can’t imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system,” the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships.

“The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that’s why Putin doesn’t mind at all that Trump lost. He’s got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.

“Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air,” the official said. “They won’t miss Trump; they will be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate.”

 

Reply to: Re:This is Literally Fake

    (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @05:10PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @05:10PM (#1100124)

    have no idea what they want

    I grew up in that culture, and I think they have a good idea what they want.

    - Overturn Roe v. Wade
    - Repeal 13A (abolished slavery), 14A (citizenship), 15A (black suffrage), 16A (income tax--they believe this one was never actually ratified in addition to their sovereign citizen woo), 19A (women's suffrage), 22A (term limits), probably 24A (abolished poll tax), and 26A (lowered voting age to 18)
    - Exterminate Jewish, (most) Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Mormon, and LGBT people (not sure whether they want to exterminate Hispanics these days, and Asians never really came up)
    - Exterminate Democrats, Greens, anarchists, and socialists
    - Enslave Africans (they believe the bible commands this based on the cool bro story about Noah getting drunk off his ass)
    - Rebuild economy for total war [wikipedia.org]

    All of that is supposedly preparation for the second coming of Man Jeebus who will personally lead the total war economy on a jihad to continue the genocides internationally. Supposedly after the jihad, then the world will be ready for New Jerusalem to descend from heaven and rule the world with an iron fist for a millennium. iirc, the white throne judgement ("white throne" takes on a whole new meaning in Christian Identity!!) happens after the millennium.

    They really are that evil and that crazy. The more I look back on it, the more I realize I am lucky I got out alive. Probably the only reason was that Da didn't want to get arrested for my murder. The idiot actually believed I'm a literal shape-shifting demon who murdered his real son. Did I mention these people are nutso?

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