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Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup and may have had help from federal law-enforcement officials

... a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations... said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation.

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One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.

“The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration’s members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held,” the NATO intelligence official said.

“The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.

“The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn’t really tell them to stop,” the official said. “Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.

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The French police official said they believed that an investigation would find that someone interfered with the deployment of additional federal law-enforcement officials on the perimeter of the Capitol complex; the official has direct knowledge of the proper procedures for security of the facility.
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It is routine for the Capitol Police to coordinate with the federal Secret Service and the Park Police and local police in Washington, DC, before large demonstrations. The National Guard, commanded by the Department of Defence, is often on standby too.

On Wednesday, however, that coordination was late or absent.

“You cannot tell me I don’t know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine,” the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites.

“These are not subtle principles” for managing demonstrations, “and they transfer to every situation,” the official said. “This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it’s obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored.”

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The third official, who works in counterintelligence for a NATO member, agreed that the situation could only be seen as a coup attempt, no matter how poorly considered and likely to fail, and said its implications might be too huge to immediately fathom.

“Thank God it didn’t work, because I can’t imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system,” the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships.

“The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that’s why Putin doesn’t mind at all that Trump lost. He’s got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.

“Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air,” the official said. “They won’t miss Trump; they will be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate.”

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  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday January 14 2021, @05:32AM (12 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday January 14 2021, @05:32AM (#1099914) Journal

    Always good to have the external view. It is the political equivalent of "Do these pants make my Trump look big?"

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday January 14 2021, @06:02AM (3 children)

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday January 14 2021, @06:02AM (#1099930) Journal

    "Do these pants make my Trump look big?"

    The two impeachment stains are barely visible from this distance - they are on the inside of the pants anyway.
    But, with the pants on or without [wikipedia.org], the shit your Trump dumped [wikipedia.org] on the international stage was and still is showing and stinking.

    It is the political equivalent of ...

    I know the question was rhetorical; howevs, for the benefit of some others 'round here, the explicit answer is yes.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:37PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:37PM (#1100025)

      Watch for big stuff next week: https://i.redd.it/p08ewtyr7ab61.jpg [i.redd.it]

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:50PM (1 child)

        by c0lo (156) on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:50PM (#1100034) Journal

        This [twimg.com] is more likely.

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        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:59PM (#1100040)

          Q was just people who used the twitter api to get trump tweets a bit before they were available on the site due to caching delays.

          Very useful for stock market, and it was publically available so not insider info.

          That has nothing to do with the blue tie trump clone, or secret twin, faking, or really, dying and then red tie Trump rising again three days later to rule over the earth in the dawn of the age of Aquarius.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:45PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @12:45PM (#1100031)

    Are you familiar with the candleman?

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:29PM (2 children)

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:29PM (#1100081) Journal

      candleman candleman candleman oh SHIT!

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 15 2021, @12:49AM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 15 2021, @12:49AM (#1100283) Journal

        He might be talking about the old Candlejack meme. You know, from Freakazoid? The idea is that when you say Candlejack's name he'll appear right behind you and take you away som

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @06:39PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @06:39PM (#1100156)

    On a related note, the GOP darling murderer is in trouble when he thought he was getting off the hook after getting bailed out.

    https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/kyle-rittenhouse-allegedly-flashed-white-power-sign-serenaded-with-proud-boys-song-at-mt-pleasant-bar [tmj4.com]

    Bad move Kyle, doubt that is going to help your case which will be looking at your intentions. Sucker punching a girl also doesn't do his character analysis any favors!

    What was it that asshole R said? Oh ya, whomp whomp!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @06:52PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @06:52PM (#1100162)

      Trump's covid-19 vaccine has killed 23 people in Norway already:
      https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/dlvXGz/har-undersoekt-13-doedsfall-vanlige-bivirkninger-kan-ha-bidratt-til-doedsfall-hos-de-svakeste [www.vg.no]

      Check the subs queue, hacked emails revealed the quality control was much higher for the clinical trial batches than what they are injecting now.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 15 2021, @12:39AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 15 2021, @12:39AM (#1100279) Journal

        Sample size of one here, I know, but I had the first dose of the Pfizer shot just before New Year's and felt fine aside from some arm soreness and slight fatigue. And I'm the kind of person who spends a week feeling like crap after a simple flu shot.

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      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday January 15 2021, @01:23PM

        by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Friday January 15 2021, @01:23PM (#1100533) Homepage
        Trump literally had nothing to do with that vaccine. Pfizer's took no funding from the US government for its development. All that happened was that Trump expressed an interest in buying some, which is an incredibly low bar to cross, and true of dozens of countries.
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