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... a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations... said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation.
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One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.
“The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration’s members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held,” the NATO intelligence official said.
“The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.
“The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn’t really tell them to stop,” the official said. “Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.
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The French police official said they believed that an investigation would find that someone interfered with the deployment of additional federal law-enforcement officials on the perimeter of the Capitol complex; the official has direct knowledge of the proper procedures for security of the facility.
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It is routine for the Capitol Police to coordinate with the federal Secret Service and the Park Police and local police in Washington, DC, before large demonstrations. The National Guard, commanded by the Department of Defence, is often on standby too.On Wednesday, however, that coordination was late or absent.
“You cannot tell me I don’t know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine,” the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites.
“These are not subtle principles” for managing demonstrations, “and they transfer to every situation,” the official said. “This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it’s obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored.”
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The third official, who works in counterintelligence for a NATO member, agreed that the situation could only be seen as a coup attempt, no matter how poorly considered and likely to fail, and said its implications might be too huge to immediately fathom.
“Thank God it didn’t work, because I can’t imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system,” the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships.
“The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that’s why Putin doesn’t mind at all that Trump lost. He’s got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.
“Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air,” the official said. “They won’t miss Trump; they will be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate.”
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 14 2021, @08:27AM (16 children)
If this were a coup, then some totally inept assholes organized it. I, a lowly supply puke, would have organized such a coup using no less than 4 companies of armed men. One company comes into the building, on the n, s, e, and w sides of the building. One company responsible for securing the first and second floors, one company goes down to the basement levels, one company goes up from the floor we mostly see from all the video shot that day. All troops in full battle armor and gas masks, fully kitted to assault the place. M-16s, shotguns, grenade launchers, and a helluva lot of gas. A helluva lot of gas. Everyone in the building would be on the floor puking and snotting the place up. Oh - that fourth company would be responsible for securing the perimeter - you know, outside the building. There would be no capitol police barging in to interrupt the party.
No "intelligence" people from any branch of the government planned any "coup" using a couple hundred undisciplined civilians, with a very sparse sprinkling of law enforcement officers. Fucking Bradley Manning couldn't even be stupid enough to have arranged this "coup" using such personnel.
Compare my scenario, to what we all saw on the videos. Think about it. No, you didn't see a "coup". Had there been a real coup, with even one competent officer, and half a dozen competent NCOs running things, the news would be vastly different today.
Idiots. To imagine that the military and intel communities are so inept as the fools shown in the news. These are the same idiots who refer to the common AR-15 semi-auto rifle as an "assault rifle".
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday January 14 2021, @08:41AM (3 children)
For this one, I can agree with you.
An inept one, but still... "quacks like a coup, moves like a coup..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday January 14 2021, @04:04PM (1 child)
Not even inept... It was a trial... Imagine if all 75 million of them go nuts.. That's a big number. Although they don't realize it they are working for the "establishment" as spelled out above
I have to repeat, there is no mystery here [archive.org] Populism takes a wrong turn for very well documented, even self evident reasons
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday January 14 2021, @09:52PM
I suspect a significant amount of those 75M are not nuts, based on the fact that Trump lost but GOP got more seat in the chamber of representatives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday January 14 2021, @05:40PM
“Stop the Steal” organizer Ali Alexander says three Republican lawmakers helped him put together the protest in Washington, D.C., that turned into a Capitol riot. [syracuse.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @09:50AM (1 child)
Go change your shorts, Runaway, they got cum all over them.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday January 15 2021, @01:31PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday January 14 2021, @11:59AM (2 children)
There, Runaway, let's see if you read lefty MSM: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-riot-investigation/index.html [cnn.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:28PM
I doubt he can. To him it's like a foreign language.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 14 2021, @03:30PM
The article says nothing more than they are trying to build a case. I hope you didn't think there is any information in that article!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @04:06PM (3 children)
You are, of course, correct. But it is useless telling these folks things like facts. Their High Holy Priests, the media, hath told onto them that it was a coup, so for them it is a coup, and that is that. They will stay forever faithful to their holy of holies, Biden, Child-sniffer in Chief, may the hair of innocents be forever within his nostrils, amen. Until such time as the other holy of holies, Kamala "Penis Breath" Harris doth take over the throne, and then shall rule upon her knees, forever and ever, amen.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @07:23PM (2 children)
Yup, this is their world [gocomics.com].
They only know what their High Holy Priests tell them they know, and they only care about what their High Holy Priests tell them to care about today.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @08:26PM (1 child)
Gaslght
Obstruct
Project
What did you guys say? God Emperor Trump? lulz you qultists are strange man.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 16 2021, @04:15AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 14 2021, @05:05PM
It's more likely the equivalent of Germany's Reichstag fire.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 15 2021, @03:44AM
Don't forget to take selfies of the 82nd dragging your body out of there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 15 2021, @04:42AM
Try again LARPer. You've obviously never made entry anywhere other than a drill. Entering and clearing a building properly with at least one thousand rooms and two thousand people inside would take hours even with a full battalion and perimeter support.