... a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations... said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation.
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One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.
“The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration’s members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held,” the NATO intelligence official said.
“The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.
“The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn’t really tell them to stop,” the official said. “Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.
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The French police official said they believed that an investigation would find that someone interfered with the deployment of additional federal law-enforcement officials on the perimeter of the Capitol complex; the official has direct knowledge of the proper procedures for security of the facility.
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It is routine for the Capitol Police to coordinate with the federal Secret Service and the Park Police and local police in Washington, DC, before large demonstrations. The National Guard, commanded by the Department of Defence, is often on standby too.On Wednesday, however, that coordination was late or absent.
“You cannot tell me I don’t know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine,” the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites.
“These are not subtle principles” for managing demonstrations, “and they transfer to every situation,” the official said. “This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it’s obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored.”
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The third official, who works in counterintelligence for a NATO member, agreed that the situation could only be seen as a coup attempt, no matter how poorly considered and likely to fail, and said its implications might be too huge to immediately fathom.
“Thank God it didn’t work, because I can’t imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system,” the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships.
“The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that’s why Putin doesn’t mind at all that Trump lost. He’s got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.
“Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air,” the official said. “They won’t miss Trump; they will be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate.”
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday January 15 2021, @07:49AM (2 children)
Any normal person could infer that in such a large audience there will be a number of persons that will reside to violence**.
Not explicitly telling them to refrain from violence before sending them there - especially when before sending them there Trump played the rhetoric to enhance their feeling of loss and asked for action in words with strong violence connotations - this only and it is still enough to hold Trump responsible.
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** you yourself admitted as such when ascribing to the "cynical perspective" of "they wanted to enable protesters relatively simple access to the chambers".
No matter what Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell wanted or not, fact is Trump pumped them up then sent them there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @04:55AM (1 child)
Yes, and for not paying attention to that, Trump does bear some blame. But that does not mean he purposefully and intentionally meant to incite those small numbers of folks.
Yes, his words, while not explicitly calling for what happened, can be way too easily twisted into appearing that he was secretly calling for violence. He bears responsibility for his choice of words. But he also did not,, in those same words, ever explicitly tell them directly to go commit what they committed. So while he bears some responsibility for poor word choice, and not realizing that there were likely to be a small number of nutcases that will take anything too far, the nutcases are directly to blame for the break-in and subsequent activity.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday January 17 2021, @10:40PM
People go to jail for manslaughter [wikipedia.org]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0