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posted by martyb on Sunday January 17 2021, @09:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the gunning-for-a-way-out dept.

NRA declares bankruptcy, plans to incorporate in Texas:

The NRA [National Rifle Association] filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in federal court in Dallas and said it planned to incorporate in Texas, where records show it formed a limited liability corporation, Sea Girt LLC, in November 2020. Sea Girt LLC made a separate bankruptcy filing Friday, listing fewer than $100,000 in liabilities.

In its filing, the NRA said its longtime leader, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, made the decision to file for bankruptcy protection in consultation with a "special litigation committee" comprising three NRA officials that was formed in September to oversee its legal strategies. The NRA board voted Jan. 7 to clarify LaPierre's employment agreement, giving him the power to "reorganize or restructure the affairs" of the organization.

"The move will enable long-term, sustainable growth and ensure the NRA's continued success as the nation's leading advocate for constitutional freedom – free from the toxic political environment of New York," the NRA said in a statement.

[...] Shortly after the announcement, New York Attorney General Letitia James said she would not allow the NRA to "evade accountability" or oversight. Her office's lawsuit last year highlighted misspending and self-dealing claims that have roiled the NRA and LaPierre in recent years— from hair and makeup for his wife to a $17 million post-employment contract for himself.

[...] The gun-rights group boasts about 5 million members. Though headquartered in Virginia, the NRA was chartered as a nonprofit in New York in 1871 and is incorporated in the state. Going forward, the NRA said a committee will study opportunities to relocate segments of its operations to Texas and elsewhere.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 17 2021, @06:00PM (7 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 17 2021, @06:00PM (#1101569) Homepage Journal

    And yet there's no gun violence in Japan.

    So, there is no violence in Japan? "Gun violence" is a meaningless term. Violent criminals will use the tools available. If the best tool available is a samurai sword, the criminal will use a samurai sword. Or a club or a rock.

    Violence is the issue, not guns.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @06:23PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @06:23PM (#1101577)

    This is one of the dumbest talking points imaginable. Guns are super convenient and just about anybody can kill somebody with one and that include infants. Yes, they lack the motor skills and intent to do so on purpose, but just being able to squeeze the trigger is all it takes. How many 5 year olds kill people with a samurai sword or rock? I'm guessing it's several orders of magnitude less.

    What's more, this whole business of people just switching doesn't have any actual factual basis for it. Some people will switch, but I've never heard of a drive by samurai sword stabbing nor have I heard of a mass clubbing. Yes, there are occasionally mass stabbings like in China, but the numbers are typically lower and the number of people that survive is higher than if a firearm were involved. Not to mention that the other methods have either a lower chance of success in executing or they put the attacker in a place where they're easier to find after the fact or catch in the act.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 17 2021, @06:38PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 17 2021, @06:38PM (#1101581) Homepage Journal

      dumbest talking points

      Right back atcha.

      The issue is violence. Violent people need to be dealt with. In point of fact, virtually all European countries deal with violent people much better than we do. Europe doesn't routinely induct ill-behaved citizens into institutional training facilities where they can learn more and better violence. Europe doesn't concentrate ill-behaved citizens into concentration camps to be abused, and to learn to be more abusive.

      I've pointed out often enough that no other country in the world incarcerates as many people as the United States does. I don't believe any other country funds a prison-for-profit system, as we do. We are the problem. Violence is the problem. Guns aren't the problem.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @07:14PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @07:14PM (#1101604)

      Where there's a will, there's a way. Impressive:

      There’s the 1973 mass murder at a gay bar in New Orleans that killed 32: An ejected customer went down the street and bought a can of cigarette-lighter fluid. And the 87 murdered in New York City in 1990: A guy upset with his ex-girlfriend bought $1 worth of gasoline. In 1986 in San Juan, Puerto Rico, union officers put pressure on an employer by using camp-stove gas to murder 97.
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      China, another society with very strict gun laws, also has mass murders. A 2014 terrorist knife attack in Kunming left 33 dead and 143 injured.

      https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/mass-murder-without-guns/ [nationalreview.com]

      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @07:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @07:16PM (#1101608)

        Honestly -- I'd rather be shot to death than burned to death. If a gun isn't available, arson seems to be really popular.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @11:22PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 17 2021, @11:22PM (#1101732)

      July 2019, Kyoto, Japan: guy goes into Kyoto Animation office, pours gasoline in the lobby, sets building on fire, 36 people dead, 34 injured. The arsonist got the gasoline from a station a few miles away and wheeled it there on a trolley. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack [wikipedia.org]

      Oh, he also poured the gas directly on several people before setting them on fire, which is how he got himself burned as well.

      At least he didn't use a gun, though, right? That might have been just awful.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 18 2021, @03:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 18 2021, @03:51PM (#1102018)

        The fact that there were only 2 incidents listed and they appear to have been preventable just by having appropriate fire regulations pretty much disproves the thesis you've got. The fact of the matter is that the number of individuals in those incidents combined over the last few decades is fewer than the number of mass murders committed via firearm in the US in just one year. In fact, both incidents together are barely any worse than the Las Vegas shooting from a few years back.

        The fact that you're delusional enough that you think cherry picking a couple of incidents is going to convince anybody is laughable. Both of those incidents depended upon the firecode being insufficient to deal with a fire.

  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday January 18 2021, @02:28AM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday January 18 2021, @02:28AM (#1101811)

    The intentional homicide rate in Japan is about 0.2 per 100k people. The US, by contrast, is 5.6. So yes, the amount of violence in Japan is a tiny, tiny fraction of what the US deals with.