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Brexit finally got done at 23:00 GMT on 31st December 2020 when the UK's Withdrawal Agreement with the EU finally expired. A "trade deal" between the UK and EU was agreed on 24th December. The Alt-Wrong finally got their prize of freedom, democracy and British sovereignty.
What did they actually win? Chaos at the ports, thousands of tonnes of fish that can't be sold, tariffs, duties, and all sorts of things which were once Project Fear and the undemocratic, treasonous lies of the Liberal Metropolitan Elite, Socialists, Marxists, quislings, traitors, lefties and people who hate their country. Socialism, Marxism, EUSSR, Venezuela, toilet paper!
We are on the third week of this glorious new future of sunlit uplands with no downsides, only upsides with much more to look forward to. And Donald Trump is going to give us a fantastic trade deal with the USA straight away.
Over at the Guardian, Polly Toynbee has an excellent summary entitled Brexiters are waking up to the damage they've done.
As Brexiters turn on each other, Brexit politics move fast. Until now the Tories planned to move on, only reviving “Brexit done” triumphalism to re-arouse the captured red wall at the election: Labour just wanted to bury the whole issue.
The Westminster system has failed us (the UK). We are now looking at Irish Reunification and Scottish Independence. Gibraltar has already got its own deal where it gets to join Schengen.
We have Taken Back Control(TM).
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 18 2021, @11:35PM (18 children)
The new president is Biden, his first act was to call 30,000 troops in then lock down the capitol because of a tramp fire under the bridge.
His next act will be to pass out $2 trillion to banks and corners, giving 1/10th that to real people.
(Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday January 19 2021, @12:25AM (15 children)
Biden stimulus [cnn.com]
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @12:37AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @12:50AM (12 children)
How about don't give any money to pork projects and give it all directly to the people?
Why do you want bank/corporate middle men to skim off 75-99% of the benefit before getting to the people in need?
(Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Tuesday January 19 2021, @01:04AM (11 children)
[Citation needed] on the skimming.
Additionally, I want nothing of the sort - one way or the other, I'm not an usian.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @01:18AM (9 children)
$1,400 to each american is about $200 billion. That means $1,800 billion is going to banks and corporations. Where else would it go?
(Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday January 19 2021, @01:31AM (8 children)
Those are more than one off payments.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/300-unemployment-benefit-congress/index.html [cnn.com] - $300/w for at least "First-time unemployment claims soared last week, with 965,000 people filing for benefits, substantially higher than the week before."
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/23/success/what-renters-need-eviction-moratorium-fe-series/index.html [cnn.com] - $25B since Xmas to end of Jan, likely to be expanded (and become $25B/mo)
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/success/ppp-loan-program-reopens-small-business/index.html [cnn.com] - potentially forgivable federal loans for businesses.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @01:39AM (7 children)
Wtf is the point of giving money as unemployment, business loans, etc?
Just give it directly to the people to spend as they please without middle men skimming it. Of course, that will never happen because the family and friends of congress and their puppet masters need to be enriched 10x more than common people.
In fact, don't even tax anyone making less than $200k per year to begin with.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday January 19 2021, @03:09AM (6 children)
I provided you the info to correct your "2% of them will get to the population, the rest is feeding the banks", up to you what you do with it.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @03:41AM (5 children)
Do you understand the difference between sending someone a check and processing unemployment, etc?
One has almost no overhead, the mother is a handout for middlemen to skim off the top with no benefit to the people.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 19 2021, @04:46AM (4 children)
$600, or $1000, or $10,000, any lump sum checks will be spent and gone in a couple weeks, if it lasts that long. Unemployment, with all it's overhead, will last for months. This is 'Murica, where (almost) everyone is in debt for an amount equal to ten year's wages. It's the 'Murican way to borrow your way through life.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @06:11AM
The same thing happens if you give it to the government, what's the difference?
Printing money from thin air (going into debt) when you are already bankrupt is a very bad idea. But since they are doing it anyway just give it all directly to the people.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:18PM (2 children)
$10k would last the average family a few months at least.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:51PM (1 child)
I strongly disagree. The average family in the United States is months behind in credit card payments, rent, utilities, car payments, and whatever else they have signed a note for. The more responsible average families will attempt to pay some of those bills if given $10k. The least responsible are likely to splurge, buying stupid bling, like a new fishing boat, jewelry, or a new car, and other crap that won't see them through hard times. Some forward looking families may invest in the faltering economy, thinking that Wall Street can insure their future needs.
The MOST responsible will invest in essentials, like survivalists, then conserve the remainder of their money to get through several months. That group will be the smallest group, I'm certain.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @09:10AM
https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/research/average-american-household-debt/ [fool.com]
https://www.bankrate.com/finance/debt/average-american-debt/ [bankrate.com]
https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/demographics/ [debt.org]
It's all very interesting, and quite alien to me, as I've always avoided debt like the plague.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @05:05AM
You don't actually need a citation. 330 million Americans, $1400 "stimulus". 1400 * 340 million = $460 billion. And I'm making two incorrect assumptions:
1) He's sending stimulus checks to everybody including illegal immigrants and 2 year olds.
2) 100% of people will cash those checks.
A fraction of the remaining ~80% will go to various social programs, and the remainder will go to corruption town. Biden has spent about 50 years in politics and only two things have remained true about him:
1) He's always on the wrong side of issues and only changes long after society has.
2) He's as corrupt as they come.
There will be plentiful "stimulus" throughout Biden's terms. Expect a recurring theme. A fraction of each stimulus will go to 99% of the population. The majority of the stimulus will go to the 1%. Then as the rich continue to get even filthier rich during this pandemic people will freak out and demand we vote for the DNC, because they're the party that claims to care about wealth inequality. Bahhaha. I suppose they do. Just not how you think.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday January 19 2021, @05:24AM
It's profoundly stupid to mandate the same minimum wage for both the poorest parts of the US and the wealthiest. Such a minimum wage would be mild in impact on Manhattan or San Francisco, but a disaster for Puerto Rico or Mississippi.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @12:32AM
You're just jealous he's so popular [babylonbee.com]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @12:36AM
Are you seriously suggesting that President Biden invade the UK, and force to rejoin the EU, like the USA had to do back in WWII? In order to fight fascism? Punch a Nazi in the face for Jesus!!