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posted by martyb on Friday January 22 2021, @07:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the thunder-lizard! dept.

Massive new dinosaur might be the largest creature to ever roam Earth:

The remains of the unnamed dinosaur were first discovered in 2012 in Neuquén Province of northwest Patagonia, but have still not been fully excavated.

[...] "Given the measurements of the new skeleton, it looks likely that this is a contender for one of the largest, if not the largest, sauropods that have ever been found," Paul Barrett, a paleobiologist at the Natural History Museum in London who was not involved in the study, told Live Science.

[...] "The place of the finding is very hard to access, so the logistics is pretty complicated," lead study author Alejandro Otero, a paleontologist at La Plata Museum in Argentina, told Live Science. "But we expect to return there after the pandemic situation."

The remains themselves date to about 98 million years ago, meaning the creature lived during the Cretaceous period.

[...] Right now, the researchers can't say how large the new titanosaur was, given that the long limb bones used to make such estimates, such as the humerus and femur, have not yet been excavated. However, analyses of the bones that have been found — including 24 vertebrae of the tail and parts of the pelvic and pectoral girdle — show that it was most likely the largest of the titanosaurs.

[...] "It is a huge dinosaur, but we expect to find much more of the skeleton in future field trips, so we'll have the possibility to address with confidence how big it really was," Otero said.

Journal Reference:
Alejandro Otero, José L. Carballido, Leonardo Salgado et al. Report of a giant titanosaur sauropod from the Upper Cretaceous of Neuquén Province, Argentina, Cretaceous Research (DOI: 10.1016/j.cretres.2021.104754)


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 22 2021, @06:06PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 22 2021, @06:06PM (#1103830)

    Yes, have you considered what happens to the thickness of the atmosphere when you remove most of the two main components?

    It gets thinner? Now you know why Earth's atmosphere is thinner than Venus's. But most of the "missing" CO2 (relative to Venus, anyway) is in the mantle.

    And what moon is mostly water?

    All the large moons of Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus, except for Io, are at least 40% water by mass, and more by volume. Tethys has probably the most water by mass, being something like 95% water. Titan sees your water and raises a thick nitrogen-rich atmosphere. Triton and all the well-studied Kuiper Belt objects, including Pluto and its large moons, may have slightly less water proportionally, but only because it's cold enough for them to also have large amounts of ammonia and even solid nitrogen. They are still all 25-30% water or more, far more water than is found on Earth. If you insist on liquid water, then you'll have to restrict yourself to Europa, Enceladus, and Triton... as far as we know for sure. But Pluto and most of the large moons of Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus are good candidates. Pluto is probably the most likely, followed by Callisto.

    Many of the medium-size moons also have large amounts of water, but there are too many of them to list and it's unlikely that any of them have liquid water.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 22 2021, @08:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 22 2021, @08:42PM (#1103913)

    It gets thinner? Now you know why Earth's atmosphere is thinner than Venus's.

    Yes, in the past it was much thicker. This provided the buoyancy required for the giant dinosaurs to survive.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 22 2021, @10:27PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 22 2021, @10:27PM (#1103943)

    Tethys has a low density of 0.98 g/cm3, the lowest of all the major moons in the Solar System, indicating that it is made of water ice with just a small fraction of rock. This is confirmed by the spectroscopy of its surface, which identified water ice as the dominant surface material. A small amount of an unidentified dark material is present as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethys_%28moon%29 [wikipedia.org]

    So they are just assuming it is not hollow or something. Also that is yet another moon with that "deathstar dimple" that looks like what you see when you crack a hard boiled egg.

    What is the explanation for these dimples? Was the object formerly liquid with a shell and an air bubble got trapped underneath, then the shell was removed somehow?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 23 2021, @02:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 23 2021, @02:58AM (#1104056)

      You figured it out! Aghartha is in there!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 24 2021, @02:05PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 24 2021, @02:05PM (#1104478)

      Couldn't it just be a large & old impact crater?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 24 2021, @08:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 24 2021, @08:39PM (#1104543)

        Probably a massive electrical discharge. OH NOES! It's the Electric Universe wackos!