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posted by martyb on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:31AM   Printer-friendly

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcosc.2020.615419/full

Humanity is causing a rapid loss of biodiversity and, with it, Earth's ability to support complex life. But the mainstream is having difficulty grasping the magnitude of this loss, despite the steady erosion of the fabric of human civilization (Ceballos et al., 2015; IPBES, 2019; Convention on Biological Diversity, 2020; WWF, 2020). While suggested solutions abound (Díaz et al., 2019), the current scale of their implementation does not match the relentless progression of biodiversity loss (Cumming et al., 2006) and other existential threats tied to the continuous expansion of the human enterprise (Rees, 2020). Time delays between ecological deterioration and socio-economic penalties, as with climate disruption for example (IPCC, 2014), impede recognition of the magnitude of the challenge and timely counteraction needed. In addition, disciplinary specialization and insularity encourage unfamiliarity with the complex adaptive systems (Levin, 1999) in which problems and their potential solutions are embedded (Selby, 2006; Brand and Karvonen, 2007). Widespread ignorance of human behavior (Van Bavel et al., 2020) and the incremental nature of socio-political processes that plan and implement solutions further delay effective action (Shanley and López, 2009; King, 2016).

We summarize the state of the natural world in stark form here to help clarify the gravity of the human predicament. We also outline likely future trends in biodiversity decline (Díaz et al., 2019), climate disruption (Ripple et al., 2020), and human consumption and population growth to demonstrate the near certainty that these problems will worsen over the coming decades, with negative impacts for centuries to come. Finally, we discuss the ineffectiveness of current and planned actions that are attempting to address the ominous erosion of Earth's life-support system. Ours is not a call to surrender—we aim to provide leaders with a realistic "cold shower" of the state of the planet that is essential for planning to avoid a ghastly future.

Journal Reference:
Corey J. A. Bradshaw, Paul R. Ehrlich, Andrew Beattie. et al. Underestimating the Challenges of Avoiding a Ghastly Future, Frontiers in Conservation Science [OPEN] (DOI: 10.3389/fcosc.2020.615419)


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Saturday January 23 2021, @06:30PM (37 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 23 2021, @06:30PM (#1104239) Journal

    It's true they aren't happening in western Europe: They're happening to produce cheap palm oil for corporations based on Western Europe and the US, though, e.g. Palmolive soap.

    Another bit of dishonesty here is construing every good thing humanity has done in the worst possible light, such as the "export the pollution" narrative.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 23 2021, @06:37PM (34 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 23 2021, @06:37PM (#1104241) Journal

    :-) Even more dishonest are those who deny it. "Exporting the pollution" is precisely the intention. Out of sight, out of mind

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    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 23 2021, @07:40PM (32 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 23 2021, @07:40PM (#1104265) Journal

      Even more dishonest are those who deny it.

      What's being denied, fusty?

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 23 2021, @07:49PM (31 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 23 2021, @07:49PM (#1104270) Journal

        What's being construed?

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:21PM (30 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:21PM (#1104283) Journal

          What's being construed?

          A fantasy which transferring blame for the many ills of the developing world on the developed world. The glaring flaw with that fantasy is that there would be no developing in the developing world without the economic trade with the developed world, the knowledge discovered/created by the developed world, and the developed world as a living example of what can be.

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:28PM (29 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:28PM (#1104287) Journal

            Exporting pollution is a common practice. We go in to colonize and pillage resources and enslave the population, not "develop" anything.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:54PM (28 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 23 2021, @08:54PM (#1104296) Journal

              Exporting pollution is a common practice. We go in to colonize and pillage resources and enslave the population, not "develop" anything.

              Remember when I spoke [soylentnews.org] of "your glaring tendency to ignore people doing things right". Here it is again. Billions of people wouldn't be living better lives now, if your words were true.

              • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 24 2021, @12:42AM (24 children)

                by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 24 2021, @12:42AM (#1104365)

                living better lives

                Define better lives. The librul agenda curriculum being taught in our high schools about Vietnam these days paints the French as an exploitative abusive conquering force who destroyed the existing different, but no less noble, Vietnamese civilization and replaced it with little copies of Paris in which the natives did the hard work for little pay and the French lorded over them reaping the benefits. Are the Vietnamese living better lives today after the French "civilized" them? After the U.S. brought them "freedom"? Of course, they were somewhat under China's influence before the French arrived but China wasn't nearly as heavy handed in Vietnam as the French.

                If you choose to believe that history. Opinions largely depend on the lens used by the storytellers.

                I met a South African in 1989 (in Belgium) while their revolution was going on back home in JoBerg. They had "white man's burden" on them in spades, really thought they were doing the South Africans a huge favor by continuing to rule them, and I think they really believed that. Clearly, the South Africans disagreed - and I don't notice them begging for their white ex rulers to come back in the last 30 years, even if some of their Euro-style cities have turned to shit, by Euro standards.

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                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 25 2021, @06:20AM (23 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 25 2021, @06:20AM (#1104629) Journal

                  They had "white man's burden" on them in spades, really thought they were doing the South Africans a huge favor by continuing to rule them, and I think they really believed that.

                  Nobody bothers continuing propaganda that no one believes.

                  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday January 25 2021, @12:03PM (22 children)

                    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday January 25 2021, @12:03PM (#1104671)

                    Nobody bothers continuing propaganda that no one believes.

                    That's the thing though - these expat South Afrikaners weren't just parroting a line, they really believed in their hearts that they were doing the natives a massive favor by governing how they live. Of course those same people also thought they were doing good work, God's work even, by translating the Billy Graham crusade to French live as it happened.

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                    Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
                    • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Monday January 25 2021, @03:50PM (21 children)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 25 2021, @03:50PM (#1104738) Journal
                      Why are you even bothering with this? We have more objective measures [soylentnews.org] than the feelz of some exiled elites from the 1970s. And fusty is notorious for pushing a nihilistic narrative and defending authoritarian governments.

                      Finally, this ties back into the story. Why should we care that some dispossessed researchers, living in their own little bubble, are concerned that we're not buying into some purely imaginary "ghasty future"?
                      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Monday January 25 2021, @04:19PM (1 child)

                        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday January 25 2021, @04:19PM (#1104750)

                        Those elites were living a very middle class lifestyle in Belgium, small apartment, wife and daughter working as nurses. It matters because it's real - weeks of personal contact experience, as opposed to bullshit sociological cooked observations ground up and regurgitated through approved review channels.

                        dispossessed researchers, living in their own little bubble, are concerned that we're not buying into some purely imaginary "ghasty future"?

                        Me, personally, I care about and relate to those researchers and the personal experience they gather through their travels and work than some dispossessed crank on the internet, living in a bubble in BFE, pontificating about what the rest of the world should be doing and not doing when they rarely experience anything beyond the propaganda traded back and forth in their local valley.

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                        Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
                        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @01:51AM

                          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @01:51AM (#1104961) Journal

                          Those elites were living a very middle class lifestyle in Belgium, small apartment, wife and daughter working as nurses. It matters because it's real - weeks of personal contact experience, as opposed to bullshit sociological cooked observations ground up and regurgitated through approved review channels.

                          It's a shaggy dog story [wikipedia.org]. And that dog isn't very shaggy!

                          Me, personally, I care about and relate to those researchers and the personal experience they gather through their travels and work

                          Being wrong for 50 years indicates that experience isn't sticking, assuming they're getting it in the first place.

                          Also, why are you continuing to emphasize subjective experiences and feelz over science and knowledge? It's easier for you to just change your experiences and feelz than it is to change actual evidence!

                          than some dispossessed crank on the internet, living in a bubble in BFE, pontificating about what the rest of the world should be doing and not doing when they rarely experience anything beyond the propaganda traded back and forth in their local valley.

                          I take it you think there's an optics problem somewhere on my end? Show me the evidence! Not some cool fantasy, bro.

                      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 25 2021, @10:01PM (18 children)

                        by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 25 2021, @10:01PM (#1104869) Journal

                        defending authoritarian governments.

                        Huh, never took ya for such a liar. I'll be gracious and say you are merely mistaken, and, closed minded, and obtuse, for personal reasons of course...

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                        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @01:41AM (17 children)

                          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @01:41AM (#1104956) Journal

                          Huh, never took ya for such a liar.

                          Multiple times you've outright dismissed injustices by China and Russia. The typical approaches are either dismissing the injustice as outright propaganda, conflating the injustice with some perceived injustice on the part of the US (which is traditionally called "whataboutism"), or your typical ad hominem attack of accusing the person of lying. For a glaring example of both in the same post, conflating [soylentnews.org] a 2014 staged referendum in the Crimea after its invasion by Russia that rationalized annexation with normal presidential elections in the US.

                          [khallow:] only 3% of the population allegedly voted against annexation of Crimea. What's the scenario by which one gets that kind of agreement?

                          [fustakrakich:] It's the exact same as the scenario where only 5% of the population allegedly votes against democrat/republicans, you blithering idiot [funny hearing that come from you].

                          Your propaganda is just a big a fraud as anybody else's.

                          A brazen display of dishonesty with all the usual components (the accusations of lying come shortly afterward). And of course, imaginary US propaganda is more important than real Russian belligerence (and propaganda, of course).

                          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @01:51AM (13 children)

                            by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @01:51AM (#1104962) Journal

                            :-) You merely exhibit comprehension problems due to your own personal biases and choice to believe propaganda that suits them

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                            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                            • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:26AM (4 children)

                              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:26AM (#1104978) Journal

                              exhibit comprehension problems

                              Long words. I imagine everyone who reads your stuff eventually develops "comprehension problems". What's the common factor?

                              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:49AM (3 children)

                                by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:49AM (#1104982) Journal

                                What's the common factor?

                                98% reelection rate. Clearly you gotta problem

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                                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @12:35PM (2 children)

                                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @12:35PM (#1105100) Journal
                                  The common factor remains you.
                                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @04:36PM (1 child)

                                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @04:36PM (#1105158) Journal

                                    This is your world. You can't blame me for what you put on the ballot. Tried to warn ya...

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                                    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @12:44PM (7 children)

                              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @12:44PM (#1105108) Journal
                              I notice also that once again, you never bothered to justify what you wrote back then. It's immediately an ad hominem attack on me instead. That implies you can't defend what you wrote back then.
                              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @04:39PM (6 children)

                                by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @04:39PM (#1105160) Journal

                                you never bothered to justify what you wrote back then

                                :-) The truth justifies itself, there's nothing to add. Just remove your blinders

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                                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @09:54PM (5 children)

                                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @09:54PM (#1105244) Journal

                                  The truth justifies itself

                                  False. We don't start with an innate understanding of what is true or false. Even you.

                                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:11PM (4 children)

                                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:11PM (#1105277) Journal

                                    Yes, we do. Or do you deny gravity?

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                                    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:16PM (3 children)

                                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:16PM (#1105279) Journal

                                      Or do you deny gravity?

                                      What is the truth about gravity? I only have a PhD in mathematical physics, so use short words please.

                                      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:31PM (2 children)

                                        by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:31PM (#1105287) Journal

                                        What is the truth about gravity?

                                        Its self evidence. Do you deny the existence of mass attraction?

                                        See, it's not that you aren't able to comprehend what I write, you just refuse because of the conflict with your preconceptions and biases. Your mind is a monkey trap of conformity. Learn to let go of your false idols.

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                                        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:14AM (1 child)

                                          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:14AM (#1105297) Journal

                                          Do you deny the existence of mass attraction?

                                          What is "mass attraction"? Can't deny something exists when we don't know what it means in the first place.

                                          Its self evidence.

                                          It's not. I hope you're not going to lecture me on self-evident economics next and how usury fits into all that.

                                          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday January 29 2021, @01:27AM

                                            by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday January 29 2021, @01:27AM (#1106414) Journal

                                            I hope you're not going to lecture me on self-evident economics next and how usury fits into all that.

                                            :-) Wasted effort... Pearls to the swine

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                                            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:05AM (2 children)

                            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:05AM (#1104966) Journal
                            Notice also the thread I linked to has two occasions where fustakrakich accuses me of lying. I'm not going to bother to dump more links, but this is far from a one-time thing. So fustakrakich who repeatedly in different threads accused me of lying, now states "never took ya for such a liar". Really?

                            There's something wrong with the narrative, you lying asshole!
                            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:52AM (1 child)

                              by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 26 2021, @02:52AM (#1104983) Journal

                              :-) Never took you seriously as one. Still don't really, but you are when you say those things about me. But, you know, knock yerself out...

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                              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                              • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Tuesday January 26 2021, @12:38PM

                                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 26 2021, @12:38PM (#1105103) Journal

                                Still don't really, but you are when you say those things about me.

                                In other words, you just lied again either in your accusation "never took ya for such a liar" or now (I'm betting on both). Clean your own bullshit first.

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday January 24 2021, @01:04AM (2 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday January 24 2021, @01:04AM (#1104368) Journal

                :-) If that made any sense, I could respond...

                So you stand with the war mongers, I am not surprised. Your head is full of garbage

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                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 24 2021, @03:15AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 24 2021, @03:15AM (#1104386)

                  Your head is full of garbagecabbage

                  Suggested improvement for the use of headspace.

                • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Sunday January 24 2021, @04:48AM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 24 2021, @04:48AM (#1104402) Journal

                  So you stand with the war mongers

                  "War mongers"? That's quite the ass pull.

                  Your head is full of garbage

                  Sounds like you're projecting hard again.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 23 2021, @09:55PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 23 2021, @09:55PM (#1104310)

      Nobody is denying that China is exporting more pollution than widgets. (Except maybe those whose pocket are lined by China.)

      China! One of the good guys! A third-world country exempt from the Paris Accord that will cripple the US economy.

  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Sunday January 24 2021, @04:17PM (1 child)

    by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 24 2021, @04:17PM (#1104499)

    On the list of Great Human Achievements, I'd put palm oil soap, well, not very high on the list: Humans have had soap for a very very long time, most of it not palm-based, so at best I'd consider that a minor incremental improvement.

    And if you think "Well, it must be great, lots of people are buying it", I'm pretty sure that's because they aren't aware of the costs they aren't paying for, e.g. environmental damage.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 25 2021, @06:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 25 2021, @06:44PM (#1104814)
      And what sort of soap oils and vegetable oils are you using? Are they from crops grown in places where only deserts existed before and not forests?

      Or are they from crops which are growing where there used to be forests before and the forests were cleared but that's fine because white people were doing the clearing and not brown people thousands of miles away?

      And that way you can whitewash it and call it "sustainable"?

      How about before making such a big fuss about palm oil, the UK, Western European countries and the USA replace their oil crops with forests till they have a higher forest percentage than the forest percentage of the palm oil producing countries? Then they won't look as big hypocrites as they already are.

      Go check out the forest percentage of the UK, France, Germany, USA sometime.