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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @03:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the browser-non-grata dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

Linux users are more likely than most to be familiar with Chromium, Google's the free and open source web project that serves as the basis for their wildly popular Chrome. Since the project's inception over a decade ago, users have been able to compile the BSD licensed code into a browser that's almost the same as the closed-source Chrome. As such, most distributions offer their own package for the browser and some even include it in the base install. Unfortunately, that may be changing soon.

[...] To the average Chromium user, this doesn't sound like much of a problem. In fact, you might even assume it doesn't apply to you. The language used in the post makes it sound like Google is referring to browsers which are spun off of the Chromium codebase, and at least in part, they are. But the search giant is also using this opportunity to codify their belief that the only official Chromium builds are the ones that they provide themselves. With that simple change, anyone using a distribution-specific build of Chromium just became persona non grata.

Source: https://hackaday.com/2021/01/26/whats-the-deal-with-chromium-on-linux-google-at-odds-with-package-maintainers/


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by slinches on Wednesday January 27 2021, @07:42PM (9 children)

    by slinches (5049) on Wednesday January 27 2021, @07:42PM (#1105628)

    You can still create your own website, completely independent of Google or Facebook or Cloudflare or AWS. No one is stopping you.

    And as I have mentioned to you before. There absolutely is someone stopping you from doing that. Namely being delisted by domain registrars, removed from DNS services and blocked by ISPs. So, no. You cannot create your own website without the support of private companies who have the right to exclude you simply because they don't like what you have to say. There is no public right of way and no enforced common carriers that would be obligated to provide such access to the internet. If we want to protect free speech as a fundamental principle, we will need to change that.

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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:15PM (2 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:15PM (#1105649)

    Bullshit.

    Proof: stormfront.org still exists. Go look for yourself.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by slinches on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:35PM

      by slinches (5049) on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:35PM (#1105666)

      That doesn't change the fact that any site could be removed (including that one) at any time on the whims of private entities with no accountability. That some companies are still willing to host all sites regardless of political views, especially objectionable ones, is encouraging in terms of free speech. Although, being reliant on the good will of for profit companies isn't a highly stable arrangement as it could be made unprofitable rather quickly.

      My point still stands.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @10:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @10:20PM (#1105701)

      Stormfront is a Fed honeypot. Of course it hasn't been bothered much. Did have to move DNS to Epik. Now try Dailystormer, Used to be .com until Google seized their DNS record and, against every norm, refused to release it to them to move it to another registrar. After a doze or so such forced name changes they seem to have finally found one that is sticking. Lord only knows how they keep a website up, without Weev it is certain they wouldn't.

      The dark day of censorship has come, it crept up a couple of years ago and the so called civil libertarians who were supposed to be manning the ramparts against it were seen cheering with wild abandon.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:42PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:42PM (#1105671)

    this is only true if you don't use free alternatives, like tor, loki.network, freenet, etc

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:27AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:27AM (#1105778)

      The goal is freedom of speech, as in, you are allowed to say things in the public square.
      Saying it in some hidden corner where 0.0001% of humanity can hear you is admission of defeat.

      • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @02:41AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @02:41AM (#1105836)

        ..unless you're alt-rig nazi, in which case, being afraid to speak counts as a win for humanity.

        Nazis aren't interested in free speech. They're interested in death for everyone who isn't them; their support for free speech has murder as its motivation and fades to zero or less whenever some darkie (or jew or trade unionist or slut or...) tries to insist that they are, in fact, a human being deserving of human rights.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @03:38AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @03:38AM (#1105858)

          ...

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @07:53PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @07:53PM (#1106250)

          You're just regurgitating Jew propaganda that has been burned into your head since birth. Even the word Nazi is just a Jew slur against any Whites who stand up for themselves. The fact is, the Jews are terrified of the internet letting out the truth about WW2 and this is why there is a huge push for censorship, along with other established power being threatened by the truth.

        • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Friday January 29 2021, @05:52AM

          by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 29 2021, @05:52AM (#1106488)

          Ah, those "alt rig" people, always drilling for oil in unconventional locations...