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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by looorg on Friday January 29 2021, @01:05PM (13 children)

    by looorg (578) on Friday January 29 2021, @01:05PM (#1106570)

    Those listed are all quite horrific fantasy worlds filled with weird humanoids, monsters and magic. Death lurks around every corner. For most of the worlds we don't even know much about what life is like for ordinary people, we can only assume it's fairly miserable. After all most of the books focus is on heroes and villains and for them death comes swiftly.

    That said when it was in the queue there was the option of Discworld, I guess it was the joke option in the bunch. At least that is a comical and whimsical place and appear to be more fun in that regard then the others. But perhaps that was just more about how good Pratchett was at writing.

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  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday January 29 2021, @05:12PM (8 children)

    by Freeman (732) on Friday January 29 2021, @05:12PM (#1106640) Journal

    The Chronicles of Narnia does not fit the mold you laid out. In fact there's a period in the series where the kids win their battles, go on to live something like 40-50+ years in Narnia as High Kings and Queens, then make their way back to Earth, where they revert back to their young selves. Yes, there are some definitely odd/different things, but it wouldn't necessarily be all bad. In the event that you could pick the time period you lived, it could be quite nice. I mean, certainly not worse than, if you couldn't pick the time period you lived here on Earth.

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    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Friday January 29 2021, @09:57PM (7 children)

      by looorg (578) on Friday January 29 2021, @09:57PM (#1106714)

      I give you that part. For the most parts I gather there will always be exceptions. It's been a really long time since I read any of the Narnia books, or even see the cartoons. I think most people if they hear it they will base it, or their view, on the first part The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. So you'll have lots of weird and creepy little creatures, a very wicked witch and I guess Astlan (or however it's spelled, the Lion) was nice tho. So as noted there are places it could and would be fairly okay or nice, sort of like you could probably find a nice little spot in Middle Earth to that is not filled with giant spider monsters, dragons, orchs and that Sauron doesn't care about. I'm sure it's lovely in the Shire for the most part.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by linuxrocks123 on Saturday January 30 2021, @12:44AM

        by linuxrocks123 (2557) on Saturday January 30 2021, @12:44AM (#1106757) Journal

        It's Aslan. But just say "Jesus lion" if you forget how to spell it.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by coolgopher on Tuesday February 02 2021, @03:00AM (5 children)

        by coolgopher (1157) on Tuesday February 02 2021, @03:00AM (#1107810)

        the first part The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

        Chronologically, that's the second part. The whole story starts with The Magician's Nephew [wikipedia.org].

        • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Tuesday February 02 2021, @01:46PM (4 children)

          by DECbot (832) on Tuesday February 02 2021, @01:46PM (#1107927) Journal

          Yeah, but when you're watching the movies The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is where you start.

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          • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Wednesday February 03 2021, @12:14AM (3 children)

            by coolgopher (1157) on Wednesday February 03 2021, @12:14AM (#1108184)

            It's arguably also where you should stop :D

            • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Wednesday February 03 2021, @06:20PM (2 children)

              by DECbot (832) on Wednesday February 03 2021, @06:20PM (#1108574) Journal

              I wish I could comment your statement, but I haven't watched the other movies so I'm not sure if it is reasonable or not.

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              • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday February 03 2021, @07:40PM (1 child)

                by Freeman (732) on Wednesday February 03 2021, @07:40PM (#1108610) Journal

                The second and third movies were fairly well done. The biggest annoyance I had was how they portrayed Peter. He did not act like a bully in the story, but that's how they portrayed him in the 2nd film. The third film was very interesting, but I'm not so sure how good of a movie it made. "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" reads like a series of short stories more than a single congruous story. I think it would have been better made, if they had created a series out of it, instead of feature films.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 04 2021, @09:21AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 04 2021, @09:21AM (#1108853)

                  They should have gone straight to Magician's Nephew after Prince Caspian as was rumored and then done Horse and his Boy after that. Film adaptations always die at Dawn Treader, or if you're the Doctor then Silver Chair. Those two are not the strongest stories.

                  Personally I'd straight up do it in chronological order:

                  1.) Magician's Nephew
                  2.) Lion, Witch, Wardrobe (ends with kids on thrones happily ever after)
                  3.) Horse and his Boy
                  3.5) Lion, Witch, Wardrobe reprise, maybe a mid-credits scene for Horse and Boy with the stag hunt and a post-credits scene where the grown-up Pevensies tumble out of the wardrobe as kids.
                  4.) Prince Caspian
                  5.) Last Battle

                  I like the idea of working in Dawn Treader as a series. Silver Chair I'm just not sure about. It was my least favorite. I think Lewis was trying too hard to be Tolkien in that one.

                  What I would really like to see is Malazan [wikipedia.org] get the same treatment as A Song of Fire and Ice. Erikson saw Tolkien's world-building and moved the bar higher.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 31 2021, @11:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 31 2021, @11:15PM (#1107334)

    Those listed are all quite horrific fantasy worlds filled with weird humanoids, monsters and magic.

    Not Pern. That's a planet colonized by former Earthers. The "dragons" are genetically-altered local fauna known as fire lizards. Zero magic involved. The closest thing to fantasy is the telepathy the dragon riders have with their beasts, and even that is the result of centuries of heavily-reinforced empathy.

    For most residents of the planet, it would be a largely agricultural lifestyle with periodic decades of Threadfall until the dragonriders finally dealt with that threat. After that, it would be a generally simple lifestyle: precisely what the colonists were looking for.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by theluggage on Tuesday February 02 2021, @05:23PM (1 child)

    by theluggage (1797) on Tuesday February 02 2021, @05:23PM (#1107999)

    That said when it was in the queue there was the option of Discworld, I guess it was the joke option in the bunch. At least that is a comical and whimsical place and appear to be more fun in that regard then the others.

    It may be whimsical, but because almost everything in it is a parody of something real, in many ways it's one of the most realistic (for a somewhat twisted value of "real") "high fantasy" worlds. Especially in the later books, it was becoming quite a civilised place to live. You can get a haircut, you can get a curry, someone collects the piss bucket every night, there there is a proto-internet, law and order (especially if you cut out the middleman and pay your Thieves Guild insurance, and the Watch are also increasingly effective against unlicensed crime), decent healthcare (either from your local witch, your local Igor or if all else failed at least one hospital where the doctors were discouraged from killing people) and even a burgeoning rail service. Mostly, though, there is a viable economical infrastructure and people grow food and provide services... There are sheep farms, cornfields, vineyards, mines producing treacle and low-BCB fat...

    C.f. Middle Earth* where the Shire looks just about self-sufficient, the Elves presumably eat moonbeams and the world of Man consists purely of siege-magnet fortified cities with no visible infrastructure. I mean, look at the battle of Pelinor Fields - big alluvial plain, between two major cities... any student of Pratchett would be yelling out "Where are the -ing cabbages?! The good people of Minys Tyrith would be starving even without the army of darkness at their gates. Do the Riders of Rohan survive on an all-horse diet and, if so, what do the sodding horses eat?"

    *look, cards on the table, I fell asleep after reading 10 pages of The Hobbit, so we're talking strictly Peter Jackson here and I may be doing Tolkien an injustice... Shoot me.
     

    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday February 06 2021, @07:38AM

      by Arik (4543) on Saturday February 06 2021, @07:38AM (#1109567) Journal
      "*look, cards on the table, I fell asleep after reading 10 pages of The Hobbit, so we're talking strictly Peter Jackson here and I may be doing Tolkien an injustice... Shoot me."

      *Pulls the trigger on an old 20th century slug thrower, *pop* *pop* *pop* subsonic rounds but they're hollow points*

      Yeah, the trilogy is dense text. Not quite as dense as the Silmarillion but close. The Hobbit? That's a child's book, literally written to read to a child at bedtime.

      Jackson's adaptions are a very pale shadow of the original.

      "where the Shire looks just about self-sufficient, the Elves presumably eat moonbeams and the world of Man consists purely of siege-magnet fortified cities with no visible infrastructure."

      Jackson's adaptions are a very pale shadow of the original.

      "I mean, look at the battle of Pelinor Fields - big alluvial plain, between two major cities... any student of Pratchett would be yelling out "Where are the -ing cabbages?!"

      The fields were dotted with barns and grain silos, sections were in grain, sections were pasture, sections were orchards. The cabbages? They were grown on poorer grounds, typically higher grounds. No one grows cabbage on land that will do better.

      "Do the Riders of Rohan survive on an all-horse diet and, if so, what do the sodding horses eat?"

      The horses eat grass. The Rohirrim reside on a vast open grassland based on prehistoric Ukraina. They live mostly in small villages, and raise cattle for milk and meat but also grow grain and a lot of cabbages.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 26 2021, @02:10PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 26 2021, @02:10PM (#1117563)

    Ramtops for me. Sto plains would be an alternative.