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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday February 06 2021, @04:34AM   Printer-friendly
from the company-towns-and-company-scrip dept.

Nevada bill would allow tech companies to create governments:

Planned legislation to establish new business areas in Nevada would allow technology companies to effectively form separate local governments.

Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak announced a plan to launch so-called Innovation Zones in Nevada to jumpstart the state's economy by attracting technology firms, Las Vegas Review-Journal reported Wednesday.

The zones would permit companies with large areas of land to form governments carrying the same authority as counties, including the ability to impose taxes, form school districts and courts and provide government services.

The measure to further economic development with the "alternative form of local government" has not yet been introduced in the Legislature.

[...] The governor's economic development office did not respond to questions about the zones Wednesday.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 06 2021, @03:42PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 06 2021, @03:42PM (#1109667)

    Yeeees, with 80k+ members, Mondragon is failing hard.
    And communists can't live if each of them don't know every other one; this is why capitalism is superior, it can function even if none knows nobody else but himself.

    Come on, enlighten us. How is that socialism and capitalism can avoid the Dunbar number and still be functional, but communism can't.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 06 2021, @06:22PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 06 2021, @06:22PM (#1109710)

    She should weigh in, but I wager it is because capitalism is supposed to allow individual economic leeway that generally is not possible under communism. Of course that fails in the later stages of caputalism once the pyramids have gotten large enough and the average person struggles to just get by. Like right now in most western capitalist countries. Even the better ones with social safety nets like education and healthcare survival is still an unnecessarily difficult struggle because some greedy fucks want to sit on their piles of gold.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 06 2021, @10:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 06 2021, @10:58PM (#1109805)

      She should weigh in, but I wager it is because capitalism is supposed to allow individual economic leeway that generally is not possible under communism.

      The problems of communism are more complicated than suggested by your simple (simplified/simplistic?) answer. But I digress.

      I raised the narrower question of "What the heck the Dunbar's number has to do with communism?" for the benefit of Azuma, she's quite prone in this case to stuck with a non-answer and stop asking relevant questions on what makes communism hard or impossible.
      It is a lot better if she ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ than it is to think that she's got it and nothing else needs to be said.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 07 2021, @04:03AM (5 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday February 07 2021, @04:03AM (#1109872) Journal

    Very easily: they are both less intrusive and less against humans' (evil...) natures than communism. In the same way a lot of people seem to *need* the Big Angry Beard In The Sky to keep them from doing immoral things, I don't believe most humans are good-natured enough for communism to work. And if we all were, *any* economic system would work, because the flaw ALL of them have is that people forget money and goods and economic activity are for humans, not the other way around.

    Since this is the case, the next question we should ask ourselves is "what system has the longest time before it reaches an Ouroboros-like failure mode and turns into a cannibal orgy?" The answer appears to be a mix of capitalism and socialism, with the elasticity of any given good or service determining how "free market" the approach to it should be; the less elastic the demand (i.e., the more necessary and tied to survival it is), the less "market forces" ought to have a say in it. This means things like healthcare need to be waaaay over on the "socialist" side, while things like designer clothing and jewelry can be basically as cutthroat as they care to be.

    We have examples approaching close to this in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Canada to a slightly lesser extent, etc.

    --
    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 07 2021, @04:39AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 07 2021, @04:39AM (#1109882)

      Something's wrong, Azuma is making too much sense.

      I think you are on the right track with elasticity, but it's not exactly that. Demand for food is pretty inelastic, but the free market does just fine producing food.

      Where you get the problem is when you have a situation where customers cannot make meaningful choices. Inelasticity is related to that because it takes away the choice of how much to buy, but it still allows for the choice of suppliers and substitute goods.

      Health care doesn't allow that either, except in elective procedures. Patients aren't really even permitted to choose their course of treatment, and it's too hard to choose doctors, with patient satisfaction determined more by the doctor's personal attributes than their medical skill.

      Basically, inelastic + monopoly = problem, which is economics 101. Health care isn't a monopoly, but it might as well be : no price competition, no meaningful choice of supplier, no ability for the patient to assess the quality of the treatment.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday February 08 2021, @01:53AM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday February 08 2021, @01:53AM (#1110098) Journal

        I make plenty of sense. If people refuse to see it, because they would rather worship their false God du jour (libtertarian "free market" principles, Trump having won the election, "all taxation is theft," what-the-fuck-ever), that is a problem with them, not me :)

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday February 10 2021, @10:58PM

          by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 10 2021, @10:58PM (#1111305) Homepage Journal

          I agree. You usually make plenty of sense.

          And maybe most mothers warned their children about you, but mine never did.

          -- hendrik

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday February 08 2021, @06:22PM (1 child)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday February 08 2021, @06:22PM (#1110319) Homepage Journal

        The problem is she's an ideologue moron who thinks the proper way to fix an ingrown toenail is to cut your legs off so you can't get one ever again. Instead of, you know, something sane like fixing the ingrown toenail.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 09 2021, @08:46AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 09 2021, @08:46AM (#1110607)

          You always describe yourself when insulting others, intriguing.