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posted by martyb on Sunday October 05 2014, @02:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the Be-Charming.  Like-a-Prince.  From-Venus. dept.

Tricia Romano reports at the Seattle Times that Susie Lee and Katrina Hess have developed Siren, a new online dating app designed to protect against men who inundate women with messages that are by turns gross, hilarious, objectifying and just plain sad. As online dating options have grown, Lee noticed that her friends' frustration did, too: With every good introduction often came a slew of lewd ones. "I just started looking (at online dating options) and very quickly realized how many things are out there and how immediately my 'creepy meter' went up," Lee says. Lee hopes to change the nature of the messages and put women in the driver’s seat.

The free iPhone app, currently launched to a select market in Seattle in August, allows women to peruse men’s pictures and their answers to the “Question of the Day” (“You found a magic lamp and get three wishes. What are they?”) and view their Video Challenges (“Show us a hidden gem in Seattle”). If a woman is suitably impressed by a man’s answers, she can make herself visible to him. Only then can he see what she looks like. "It’s a far more thoughtful — and cautious — approach than the one taken by the dating app of the moment, Tinder, which is effectively a “hot or not” game, with little information beyond a few photos, age and volunteered biographical tidbits," writes Romano. "And the implicit notion that it’s a “hookup” app can be uncomfortable for some women." Lee and Hess are betting that men are less shallow and want more repartee. And they know that women want a little more flirtation than crude references. After all, Siren’s motto is “Charm Someone’s Pants Off.” “Before the ‘pants off,’ it’s more about charming someone,” says Hess. “Be charming.”

 
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Sunday October 05 2014, @03:46PM

    by VLM (445) on Sunday October 05 2014, @03:46PM (#102059)

    I'm not in this game so I don't care personally, but I imagine the participants for a minute, and I now need bleach for my mind.

    I don't like the site wide question idea, because the provided examples look like bad parody. Ever seen the first 5 minutes of "bladerunner", the HR interview grilling? Who wouldn't feel exactly like that when asked stupid questions. So you're going to evolve a dating pool of chicks and guys who actually LIKE wanna be HR professional interview questions.

    Also, speaking of things that apparently no one has ever thought of, does anyone involved understand the dynamic of "bad money chases out good money"? Now combine that with the opposition being "effectively a “hot or not” game" and take a wild guess as to the "desirability distribution" of the chicks on this app. I suspect the distribution of water buffalo, hambeasts, and hippos will naturally concentrate into one of the apps discussed, and its not going to be the "hot or not" one.

    So combine the two and you've got chicks with the personality of "wanna be HR professionals" and the looks you'd guess from chicks who know they're going to lose if they play the tindr hot or not game. I'm imagining what that looks like, and I'm thinking those Harry Potter movies, the woman from the ministry of magic with the cat plates who's continually trying to take over hogwarts and turn it into a polite torture camp. And a whole website of those chicks not just one. "Nuke it from orbit, just to be sure", indeed.

    Not claiming there isn't a problem or trying to fix it is wrong. Just saying this isn't gonna work. It's like trying faith healing and leeches to fix ebola.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @01:32AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @01:32AM (#102254)

    WTF did I just read?

    • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Monday October 06 2014, @04:15AM

      by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Monday October 06 2014, @04:15AM (#102295) Homepage Journal

      He said the women are too fat and ugly for other more popular sites, so it will be filled with fat ugly women with the kind of mentality that could make Charlie Sheen go limp after half a bottle of boner pills.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @04:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @04:35AM (#102301)

    I don't like the site wide question idea, because the provided examples look like bad parody. Ever seen the first 5 minutes of "bladerunner", the HR interview grilling? Who wouldn't feel exactly like that when asked stupid questions. So you're going to evolve a dating pool of chicks and guys who actually LIKE wanna be HR professional interview questions.

    Ya know, if you don't like their ideas on ways to thoughtfully engage you could (gasp!) come up with a few ideas of your own. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the women using this app might actually appreciate your effort and initiative. I also gather that the ladies would prefer your alternative does not include lewd propositions and pictures of your dick. Just a thought.

    Also, speaking of things that apparently no one has ever thought of, does anyone involved understand the dynamic of "bad money chases out good money"? Now combine that with the opposition being "effectively a “hot or not” game" and take a wild guess as to the "desirability distribution" of the chicks on this app. I suspect the distribution of water buffalo, hambeasts, and hippos will naturally concentrate into one of the apps discussed, and its not going to be the "hot or not" one.

    My alternative hypothesis is that the the distributions will divide along the line of women who are OK with just a hookup versus women who are more interested in some sort of serious relationship. The fact that you jumped to the conclusion that women who are looking for serious long-term relationships skew toward looking like "water buffalo, hambeasts, and hippos" seems most telling, and not in a particularly flattering way. Just sayin'.

    Not claiming there isn't a problem or trying to fix it is wrong. Just saying this isn't gonna work. It's like trying faith healing and leeches to fix ebola.

    Considering how much of a problem it has been for men and women to find meaningful relationships, I would be genuinely interested to hear about an alternative that works better. I suspect the ladies who came up with the spam filter would probably be very appreciative too. So, what is your alternative?

  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Monday October 06 2014, @12:58PM

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 06 2014, @12:58PM (#102386) Journal

    http://mindbleach.org/ [mindbleach.org]

    Your welcome :-)

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