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Journal by fustakrakich
Democrats either go it alone, or they go nowhere. A few more months will clarify* their real intent. I'm not expecting any surprises, pork futures are steady.
Whatever... spit on this:
I want both. I'm very interested in what happened in Kentucky. And I am also very interested in who gave the order to the cops/guard to stand down. Other than that, there were a lot of people there, gonna arrest them all?
UPDATE:
*Here's Joe Manchin, performing a bit of that clarification.
UPDATE (just for you, AC!):
What happened in Kentucky?
Bipartisan is bullshit, just another name for complicit
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(Score: 2, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 18 2021, @12:01AM (9 children)
I say this even being a software developer. I'm not even just that. I'm a security researcher.
Paperless is bad. Add closed source software on the internet, and it is insanely bad. Yet...
Paper takes very little technical skill to mess with. Simply find out what areas vote the "wrong" way, then make some of those ballots go missing. It's especially easy for post office workers, who are 90% democrat. (they endorsed Biden; votes being carried by a partisan service is absurd)
Paper is also easy to fill out in advance, then dump into the machine during the dead of night. That happened. Recounts don't help. There is no legitimate excuse for this illegal operation:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/sean-hannity-2020-election-georgia-nevada-suspicious-suitcases [foxnews.com]
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6214078441001 [foxnews.com]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 18 2021, @02:09AM
Except that there is already a whole economic area that has, largely, solved this 'paper' problem (at least to the extent of being able to detect mischief).
What area is that, you say?
Why, it is the finance and invoicing department. Remember those paper forms you'd fill out at a service station to have your car repaired (to take one example). And up in the top left, or top right, was a long number (usually in red font, although not always). That number was a sequential serial number for the invoice form. Mischief was detected when the day's receipts featured either a gap in the serial number sequence (meaning some forms went missing) or duplicates in the sequence (meaning extras were inserted). Additional mischief was detected by recording, at the start of the day, the serial number of the next form to be used (and it better match yesterday's last form's serial plus one) and by recording the last serial to be used at the end of the day. Then, when doing the books, if there were invoices that did not have numbers between "start" and "end" for the day, that also showed that extras were inserted.
Now, this method does not necessarily allow you to determine which papers are the correct, and which are the mischief, ones. But it does allow for detecting that mischief occurred. And this process would also work for voting. Each polling place has a pre-made set of paper ballots, pre-numbered in sequence for that polling place. At the end of the election, there better be an equal number of sheets of paper as there were first allocated to the polling place. If not, then mischief happened. Doing this would increase transparency, because one could feel assured that mischief would be detected. As to what to do if mischief were detected? Well, one way would be to throw out all those ballots, and have that polling place revote (but this would also require that the "result" not be revealed until after all the mischief had been detected, and all the revotes had occurred). Otherwise the announcement of the "results" elsewhere would bias the voters in this precinct and change their choices.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 18 2021, @03:43AM (3 children)
Sorry.... FOX is fake news.. Find us something legitimate, not a bunch of conspiracy wackos.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 18 2021, @04:34AM (2 children)
The surveillance video wasn't taken by Fox. It's all-natural fraud in the wild. I think that you need the commentary to explain what is happening in the video, but the original video is widely available.
You've been trained to reject media that doesn't toe the line. That's amazing. You reject your own eyes. Wow.
Speaking of conspiracy, when lots of left-wing news shows neglect to tell you about the video, isn't that a conspiracy? I mean a real conspiracy. They have collaborated to conceal evidence from you.
The truly amazing thing is the training. With you: "It's not legit unless it's in Pravda."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 18 2021, @05:51AM (1 child)
Nope, your videos are fake, just like those phony interviews about selling fetuses. FOX is fake news
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 18 2021, @08:42AM
Project Veritas? It's got "Truth" right in its name, just like Runaway's White Supremacist Gun-lovers website had "patriot" right in its name. Of course, they did go on to advocate the violent overthrow of the United States of America, so there is that.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday March 18 2021, @09:09PM (1 child)
Please explain that one to me. At what step in this process does the voter get a blank ballot and fill it out?
I know that there are some red states that have paperless electronic voting -- but your description doesn't fit that.
Most everywhere else has paper ballots, which voters actually see and handle before they get turned in and counted.
Your description doesn't sound like you meant swapping out real ballots for fake ones after the election is over. But supposing that is what you meant, then there is a pretty piss-poor security in place around the ballots. You might flip a precinct. But then could this process be reliably and undetectably repeated everywhere?
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, you technically only had one piece.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 19 2021, @04:23AM
It's not so hard to forge a ballot. In some places it is a trivial operation with a photocopier. In other places it is harder, but all you need is a bit of cooperation from somebody with a printing press. It could even be the person contracted to print the legitimate ballots: print 666000 according to the contract, then print an extra 12000 as a political favor.
To summarize the video: before the polling place opened for the day, a table was brought in. Large boxes were hidden under the table. The place opens, people vote, and the place closes. Observers are there as votes are counted. The observers are told that voting is done for the night, so they should go home. Four people stay there, sitting very idle for many minutes. (to make sure the observers don't peek in) Suddenly they spring into action. They retrieve the hidden boxes from under the table. They take ballots from the boxes, then feed those ballots into the counting machines. Clearly the law was violated. Somehow, large amounts of fraudulent ballots were produced and then counted.
One doesn't just flip a precinct. Within a state, the USA uses a popular vote. (the electoral system is not recursively applied to smaller and smaller jurisdictions) Adding some Biden votes to a Biden district is an effective way to flip an entire state. It often doesn't take very many votes in a swing state. The extra votes are easy to hide in a big city. It also doesn't take many votes to flip congress, because you can focus on the closest races.
BTW, some other methods:
Ballot harvesting is legal in California. It is thought to have flipped some US House seats. The HR 1 bill would make it legal everywhere. The way it works is crazy: any random person is authorized to go around collecting ballots. Just go door-to-door asking for ballots, then turn them in. Nobody will know if you discard ballots from areas that vote in ways you dislike. Nobody will know if you steam open the envelopes, or even if some people hand over unsealed/unfilled ballots. Nobody can ever prove any kind of fraud you might engage in. It's the perfect crime.
The post office is 90% democrat, and their union endorses democrats, yet they are trusted to transport ballots. A few were caught. Ballots got dumped in dumpsters and streams. How many were not caught? Worse yet, ballots can be diverted to people who steam open the envelopes. It's effective for flipping a close race.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 19 2021, @05:20PM (1 child)
Open source and closed source are equally shiny. Or did you miss the recent story of a Linux kernel bug that’s been in plain sight for over 15 years? “Many eyes make all bugs shallow “ is a myth.
Code that looks correct and doesn’t trigger an obvious frequent error is going to receive little scrutiny. Especially if it’s been around for 15 years.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 19 2021, @07:40PM
I'll take the open source all the same. Although I'm not competent to weed out a kernel bug, some people I trust are smart enough. With Microsoft's kernel, there isn't a single person I trust working on the kernel. Not one.
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