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Linux systemd Dev Says Open Source is 'SICK', Kernel Community 'Awful'

posted by LaminatorX on Tuesday October 07 2014, @11:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the Mr-Popularity dept.

wirelessduck writes:

From El Reg:

Lennart Poettering, creator of the systemd system management software for Linux, says the open-source world is "quite a sick place to be in."

He also said the Linux development community is "awful" – and he pins the blame for that on Linux supremo Linus Torvalds.

"A fish rots from the head down," Poettering said in a post to his Google+ feed on Sunday.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07 2014, @09:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07 2014, @09:21PM (#103316)

    Please do have fun with freebsd, but don't forget that the linux kernel developers are still working hard to create the best unix kernel they can make.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07 2014, @09:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07 2014, @09:46PM (#103330)

    A kernel alone does us no good, though. That's where FreeBSD shines. They do the kernel right, and they do the userspace right. Debian used to offer much of the same, but they're clearly fucking up the userland side thanks to the introduction of systemd. Unfortunately, we need both the kernel side and the userland side to be done properly. We can't just have one or the other.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 08 2014, @05:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 08 2014, @05:06AM (#103447)

      but they're clearly fucking up the userland side thanks to the introduction of systemd. Unfortunately, we need both the kernel side and the userland side to be done properly. We can't just have one or the other.

      So then why is it that people are only bitching and whining about sytemd instead of getting together and making a better replacement? If its as bad as the extremely vocal group claims, then its in high demand and would be very welcome. The fact that nobody's working on an alternative suggests that its not really as bad as they're claiming.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 08 2014, @08:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 08 2014, @08:20AM (#103480)

        Not this crap again.

        We had a better replacement 20 years ago. For some reason it's called sysv-init, even though it doesn't dictate sysv-style init scripts. On slackware it runs BSD-style init scripts just fine.

        The problem is not the lack of an alternative, it's that more and more distros drop support for anything but systemd, due to Gnome (and probably soon KDE) dependencies.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 08 2014, @07:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 08 2014, @07:58PM (#103746)

          it's that more and more distros drop support for anything but systemd

          ...which is exactly why they need to be forked, instead of simply bitched about.