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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday March 25 2021, @08:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the geek-drama dept.

Free software advocates seek removal of Richard Stallman and entire FSF board:

Richard Stallman's return to the Free Software Foundation's board of directors has drawn condemnation from many people in the free software community. An open letter signed by hundreds of people today called for Stallman to be removed again and for the FSF's entire board to resign.

The open letter said:

        Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety. These sorts of beliefs have no place in the free software, digital rights, and tech communities. With his recent reinstatement to the Board of Directors of the Free Software Foundation, we call for the entire Board of the FSF to step down and for RMS to be removed from all leadership positions.

Previously:
Richard Stallman Rejoins Free Software Foundation Board of Directors
Richard M. Stallman Resigns
Richard Stallman Deserved to be Fired, Says Fired GNU Hurd Maintainer


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Friday March 26 2021, @04:38PM (7 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Friday March 26 2021, @04:38PM (#1129411) Journal

    ... fatally encumbered with organization-killing baggage ...

    I don't like the passive voice in phrases like this. Who made the baggage? "Baggage" is a derivative of popular culture -- it's the CDO of the social milieu -- rarely productive, often destructive, frequently wrong. Galileo's culture gave him baggage -- that baggage wasn't Galileo's creation or fault, rather, it was chained to him against his will, against reality, and demonstrated only the idiocy of his culture. In the same way, RMS is not responsible for the baggage our present culture is bestowing on him merely because he doesn't fit in with the going social narrative.

    So, unless we are talking about RMS being convicted by direct evidence of a provable crime that caused actual real world harm to a real world person (*), I don't care about the culturally manufactured garbage. Such irrelevancies say nothing about the person being dogpiled but are instead, informative about the toxicity level of current culture.

    (*) Cultural crimes are also irrelevancies. See Galileo.

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  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 26 2021, @10:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 26 2021, @10:50PM (#1129633)

    yes, i've seen twats on social media arguing that since people are upset it's his burden. That's ridiculous. Just like these mask/"vaccine" cowards freaking out like you killed their kids just because they feel scared. your feelings are not my problem. if you try to make it my problem i will crack your faced up like a old porcelain doll.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday March 27 2021, @01:45AM (5 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday March 27 2021, @01:45AM (#1129716) Journal

    You...ignored literally 90-95% of that post to piss and moan about this. This, Hemo, is why you aren't relevant any longer; you've been reduced to "oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg."

    This may surprise, anger, and upset you, but you're not saying anything either original or useful here. If you want to contribute, join me in pointing out that what's at stake here is *the GPL itself,* and with it, the Zeroth Law and possibly the very concept of copyleft licensing per se. Microsoft, Google, etc. can't beat Linux on its own merits, nor can they destroy open-source coding on a program for program basis as to which is better. So they're trying to make it illegal. Stallman presents himself as a gigantic, unfortunate ring target.

    Whatever happens now, the FSF needs to lawyer the hell up like yesterday and make the GPL immortal and bulletproof. Ideally, Stallman (and any other single person, or even organization) should be *irrelevant* to copyleft.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 27 2021, @02:44AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 27 2021, @02:44AM (#1129741)
      The FSF and Stallman can disappear in a neutron bomb blast, it doesn’t affect the GPL. Enforcement of the GPL is up to the holder of the copyrights. Neither the FSF nor Stallman have legal standing. So who cares, this cannot be interphase an attack on open source, just on assholes.
      • (Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday March 27 2021, @06:57AM (2 children)

        by Pav (114) on Saturday March 27 2021, @06:57AM (#1129805)

        FSF has encouraged transfer of copyright to it on quite a bit of software pretty central to the stack. Just sayin'.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 27 2021, @10:29PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 27 2021, @10:29PM (#1130060)

          Of course they have. It’s a make-work project for FSF lawyers. And “the stack” is being replaced. Major pieces like gcc, which is now replaced by clang/LLVM, to the point some distros don’t even ship gcc.

          What happens when the only part of a Linux distro under the GPL is the kernel? No gnu programs. No more stupid “gnu/Linux” arguments? Because it’s coming to that. The gnu toolchain is long in the tooth, and it’s not getting any prettier with age. And Stallman is too burned out after living his life as a vagabond to button down and do anything about it (plus nobody who’s tried working with him before wants to go through that experience again).

          Gnu was already dying. This just accelerated the process.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 28 2021, @01:48AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday March 28 2021, @01:48AM (#1130143) Journal

            So long as the kernel itself stays GPL, I am okay with this. This is Linux functioning as intended; the "hurr hurr ganoo-linnix derp-a-derr" mockery you're putting out is the entire *point.* Linux *is* nothing more than the kernel, and is basically userland-agnostic as it should be.

            That said, unless and until we get as-good-or-better (and ideally backwards-compatible...) replacements for the entire GNU toolchain, we shouldn't be so sanguine about the idea of it all disappearing. We can of course steal the BSD toolchain (and hopefully not give Theo a fit of apoplexy) if it comes to that, but if it does, it will happen for political reasons rather than anything meritocratic or based on code quality.

            LLVM and Clang are not there yet. I don't see GCC going away any time soon. Let's see what things look like in 5 years' time.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 28 2021, @01:57AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday March 28 2021, @01:57AM (#1130149) Journal

        And you expect a single coder working out of his or her basement on weekends and nights to have the wherewithal to challenge $BIGCORP over ownership of their code? That's the real problem here...

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