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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday March 28 2021, @05:23AM   Printer-friendly

Red Hat pulls Free Software Foundation funding over Richard Stallman's return:

The chorus of disapproval over Richard M Stallman, founder and former president of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), rejoining the organisation has intensified as Linux giant Red Hat confirmed it was pulling funding.

Stallman announced he had returned to the FSF's Board of Directors last weekend – news that has not gone down well with all in the community and Red Hat is the latest to register its dismay.

CTO Chris Wright tweeted overnight: "I am really outraged by FSF's decision to reinstate RMS. At a moment in time where diversity and inclusion awareness is growing, this is a step backwards."

Describing itself as "appalled" at the return of Stallman to the FSF board of directors "considering the circumstances of Richard Stallman's original resignation in 2019," Red Hat said it decided to act.

"We are immediately suspending all Red Hat funding of the FSF and any FSF-hosted events. In addition, many Red Hat contributors have told us they no longer plan to participate in FSF-led or backed events, and we stand behind them," said Red Hat.

[...] Red Hat's step marks an escalation in the war of words over Stallman's return. As both a long-time donor and contributor of code, the IBM-owned company's action might well give the FSF pause for thought in a way that thousands of outraged tweets might not.

FSF president Geoffrey Knauth stated his intention yesterday "to resign as an FSF officer, director, and voting member as soon as there is a clear path for new leadership."

Red Hat statement about Richard Stallman's return to the Free Software Foundation board


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Sunday March 28 2021, @09:39AM (7 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 28 2021, @09:39AM (#1130265) Journal

    you all are aiding and abetting proprietary software

    Care to explain it, oh, you chief of a library long gone?

    I admit that I lost track how FSF is conducting its mission today or indeed what exactly is this mission. Mind you, I'm not saying it doesn't have a mission just that, as a limited human as I find myself, I lost track of it in the practical sense. Like, what has FSF done for us in the last 5 years?

    And then, how exactly the entire Stallman brouhaha - quitting, rejoining (and, I suppose, quitting again soonish) - helped or didn't help keeping the proprietary software at bay?

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anti-aristarchus on Sunday March 28 2021, @10:45AM (4 children)

    by Anti-aristarchus (14390) on Sunday March 28 2021, @10:45AM (#1130269) Journal

    The battle has been long. Not so much what FSF has done in the recent past, but the insistence on Free Software. We have seen many, many attempts to destroy that. Novell has been mentioned. COREL? SuSE went to the Dark Side, and Redhat has committed sins against free software that are questionable, if not unforgiveable. Not to mention systemd. SCO, Linux Foundation. "Open Source". DRM in WWW3 standards. Creeping attempts to confuse the issues, confuse the public, and ultimately destroy free software as a concept, and as a GPL. Those are the stakes. Also why I cringe when ever I hear "public-private partnership."

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday March 28 2021, @11:43AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 28 2021, @11:43AM (#1130274) Journal

      Creeping attempts to confuse the issues, confuse the public, and ultimately destroy free software as a concept, and as a GPL. Those are the stakes.

      Those I know about. What happened to them lately? Are we better or are we worse in this regard?
      If we aren't better, what was FSF doing to at least try to make them better?

      I heard nothing of "yet another city/county/state going open source", nothing about "open standards", nothing about "Social Media with privacy", nothing about many things, only about RMS pro and against.

      So... what else?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 28 2021, @01:03PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 28 2021, @01:03PM (#1130290)

      Take a chill pill already and try to leave your reality distortion field for a moment. There’s no attempt to confuse the public because the public has never heard of RMS, the FSF, or the GPL, and doesn’t give a shit. If, after all these years, that’s still the case, then it’s all been a miserable failure.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:05AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:05AM (#1130500)

        he public has never heard of RMS, the FSF, or the GPL, and doesn’t give a shit

        So, who cares about the public? Really. This isn't a popularity contest where it matters how big the Kardassians asses are. The public may not care about free software, but nerds don't care about the public. Stop trying to push your normie social standards onto other groups you bigot.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @10:45PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @10:45PM (#1130954)
          Who cares about the public? Obviously the poster who claims this is all an attempt to confuse the public. The public doesn’t care because the public doesn’t know about free software, the GPL, open source, or Richard Stallman.

          You say nerds don’t care about the public, but you complain when anyone calls out your bullshit. Nice.

          Fucking hypocrite.

  • (Score: 2) by Eratosthenes on Monday March 29 2021, @12:28AM (1 child)

    by Eratosthenes (13959) on Monday March 29 2021, @12:28AM (#1130514) Journal

    And then, how exactly the entire Stallman brouhaha - quitting, rejoining (and, I suppose, quitting again soonish) - helped or didn't help keeping the proprietary software at bay?

    Doesn't help, at all. In fact, a distraction? A manufactured, intentional distraction? This is really my point, and I do not mean to engage in the details of the "brouhaha", but this is an attack on free software. Post-conventional warfare is like this. The players are often not clear, the attacks are oblique, and the game is a long one.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday March 29 2021, @04:26AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 29 2021, @04:26AM (#1130606) Journal

      In fact, a distraction? A manufactured, intentional distraction? ... but this is an attack on free software. Post-conventional warfare is like this. The players are often not clear, the attacks are oblique, and the game is a long one.

      Safe to say, then, that either:

      • FSF must start doing what it is supposed to do instead of being paralyzed by internal fights; or
      • be dismantled asap, to let a clean room for any potential successor that does what it needs to be done. Since this is a potentiality rather then a certitude, I'll argue that maintaining a sick FSF is helping them by exposing an attack surface - it may be better w/o it than with it. I can't say for sure that "w/o it" is better, even an inert boulder may still be useful if nothing better is at hand

      Coming to TFA,

      FSF president Geoffrey Knauth stated his intention yesterday "to resign as an FSF officer, director, and voting member as soon as there is a clear path for new leadership."

      Well, Geoffrey mate, just don't waste your time, the sooner you find a new (and proper) leadership, the better.

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