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posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday October 08 2014, @01:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the needs-a-systemd-port dept.

According to an email sent to the Debian debian-devel-announce mailing list by Adam D. Barratt, the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD port is in grave danger of being dropped from the upcoming Debian 8 "Jessie" release. Debian GNU/kFreeBSD runs the GNU userland tools, the GNU C library and the Debian package set on top of the FreeBSD kernel.

Barratt states:

We remain gravely concerned about the viability of this port. Despite the reduced scope, we feel that the port is not currently of sufficient quality to feature as a fully supported release architecture in Jessie.

We therefore advise the kFreeBSD porters that the port is in danger of being dropped from Jessie, and invite any porters who are able to commit to working on the port in the long term to make themselves known *now*.

We will assess the viability of kFreeBSD in Jessie on or after 1st November, and a yes/no decision will be taken at that time.

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  • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday October 08 2014, @07:37PM

    by isostatic (365) on Wednesday October 08 2014, @07:37PM (#103734) Journal

    Why do I want to use systemd?

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  • (Score: 2) by cykros on Wednesday October 08 2014, @08:47PM

    by cykros (989) on Wednesday October 08 2014, @08:47PM (#103771)

    A.) You're a catholic, and really like the medieval style of penance. Systemd is great for that!

    B.) Choice makes you nervous. Have no fear; systemd promises you a Linux environment with less choice getting in the way than ever before!

    C.) You're really an all or nothing person. If one thing breaks, the entire system should go down, Windows 95 BSOD style. Fear not; the systemd devs are working tirelessly to bring back this experience formerly loved by millions.

    D.) The text editor wars have you entirely unable to decide which one to use. You're in luck! With systemd, you don't need a text editor to read the logs or configure anything, because even if you had one, you'd still be using binary utilities, because that's just How Things Are Done (TM).

    E.) You believe that we really should have one program on our computers that does everything, or at least remains heavily in control of any programs that haven't yet had their functionality mapped into the one application to rule them all. Pipes scare you, and bash scripting may as well be forbidden magic. Systemd is for you! It's currently on track to make sure that everything on your system will be wrapped up in its loving grasp, and if you've accidentally forgotten to install it (the horror!) don't worry, because nothing else will have the audacity to work until it is properly installed. If your favorite software doesn't yet have this safeguard, stay tuned, because systemd reliance will surely come for your favorite utilities next!

    And lastly,

    F:) Because Red Hat says so. What good is a free system without a corporate overlord to ensure that it is used exactly as they prescribe?

    I apologize if you were actually looking for someone to tell you why you should use systemd, but as we've shown over the last few months here, I don't think any of us could dig you up a single good reason to do so. The official story seems to be "make boot time faster!"...which everyone surely is willing to give up everything else for, for those biannual reboots. Perhaps they're planning on making it a more appreciated thing, once rebooting your Linux box becomes more of a necessity with systemd at the helm.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday October 25 2014, @06:51PM

      by sjames (2882) on Saturday October 25 2014, @06:51PM (#110037) Journal

      I wouldn't worry about D, I'm fairly sure both vi and emacs will be included as hard dependencies in the next release.

      • (Score: 2) by cykros on Wednesday October 29 2014, @02:38PM

        by cykros (989) on Wednesday October 29 2014, @02:38PM (#111170)

        That's probably true. Emacs, because systemd aspires to do everything, and Vim, because it also needs a decent text editor.